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Geplaatst door Prometheus, 09.09.2016 - 13:56
Hello Gentlemen,

I have been thinking about this for quite some time now, and I have become increasingly curious about the history of Atwar.

While I catch snippets from old forum posts, and renegade conversations; there is so much about the history of this game we all play that I am simply unaware of. The purpose of this thread is simply to invite old time players, to talk of the "glory days" share links to old threads, or even write something about the progression of the game. If anyone is interested in writing clan histories, player histories, etc know that you will have at least one avid reader.

I'll list a couple questions here i'm interested in to get the idea going, feel free to answer these questions or just talk about Atwar in general

)What was Atwar like in the beginning? Was there this divide between Scenario/RP/and "competitive" players?
)How was EU+ found to be the most balanced map? UK/Germ or UKR/Turk standard duels?
)I have heard things like Russia Central being militia back in the day, when was this changed and have their been any other significant balance changes?
)Clans, the rise of SM, why did Bonk create it ,how have they managed to be so strong for so long while other clans have fallen apart.
)Dalmati,Ily, just old dead clan in general that were OP, what happened to them and what was it like CWing back in their times?
)Dueling, how had the standards for duels changed, as well as dueling ethics?
)OP players, I know of Tophats, Chess, but what other names are old legends? What kind of strategies and picks did they like to play?
)progression and balance of strategies, I have heard that Tophats helped with balancing, then Lao did, any other big balance changes?
)personal player histories? Much like what Pavie wrote if anyone wants to write about how they found Atwar, what clans they joined, who taught them, what games they like to play etc.

Thank you in advance to anyone who takes the time to post here,
Cheers,
Prometheus.
01.12.2016 - 12:12
Geschreven door Zephyrusu, 01.12.2016 at 11:46

Please remind me again why do we care about hdrakon


atwar history lesson.
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01.12.2016 - 12:24
Geschreven door Sultan of Swing, 01.12.2016 at 12:11

Geschreven door ROYAL, 01.12.2016 at 11:55

Geschreven door Sultan of Swing, 01.12.2016 at 08:29

Geschreven door Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 04:25

Geschreven door Permamuted, 30.11.2016 at 20:52

Geschreven door Mobster, 30.11.2016 at 15:54

I know hdrakon since 2012
First of all hdrakon is not an Arab. Second, hdrakon didn't make death threats to nobody and of course not to Vril. the real reason why Vril left started when hdrakon was permanently banned by Vril for calling him "a noob" several times on different occasions while others players used worse terms when they refere to Vril, Vril punished hdrakon severely because hdrakon was permanently banned just a year before, when the mods discussed about how unfair is this ban majority of mods were in favour to unban him and vril made a threat to quit atwar if hdrakon is unbanned then amok got involved and said to let Vril decide, meanwhile the mods reach to a decision to keep hdrakon banned for only a year if he doesn't make any problem and Vril said nothing then 2 days before 1st of march 2014 the date hdrakon was supposed to be unbanned Vril quit atwar and never returned
Thirdly you are also talking about guest accounts but this is hard to believe this is hdrakon. It can be anyone and as far as i know hdrakon barely visit atwar since he got the ban he will not do such a thing and only time hdrakon harassed mods to unban him was in 2012 and it was the last time.
You're full of hate. You try so hard to manipulate people to hate hdrakon because you hate him so much you are like obsessed with hdrakon. Let it go.


Lol and who the hell are you? Interesting that you know so much about goings on within the modforum, even down to exactly what amok said. That intervention by amok was in a thread from 2012/2013 created on the mod forum where vril had a go at one of the mods for unbanning hdrakon without any discussion with the rest. How the hell would some random r10 know of or even remember such details.

Its always the same with hdrakon, looks for allies and then tries to convince them that hes the poor innocent victim of bias and corrupt mods abusing their powers. Theres a long line of these poor suckers from 2012 right up to whoever it was that unbanned him this time. A failing of the modteam to provide transparency on his actions to future mods. But it doesnt matter, this community is dying and lacks the admin help required to deal with someone like him. It is not worth it. Each of his bans in the past has lead to retribution in some form upon the community usually in the form of guest spammers. All use vpns, all make new accounts seconds after you ban or ignore one, all are nasty and abusive, all are extraordinarily determined able to keep it up for hours at a time as one mod after the other takes shifts banning the accounts 1 at a time. I saw that the mods from 2012 had the exact same issues as they had posted screenshots. It doesn't take a genius to see that its all the same person. This is some random indie risk game who the fuck would care enough to go to that effort? Whoever you are mobster save your breath for someone worth defending. To quote acqui hdrakon is scum.

So what if you dont know who I'm it doesn't reduce my credibility to refute your accusations and I know this information because I asked hdrako.

so again.. how does hdrakon know whats on mod forums hm? and why u care so much to back him up? seems interesting your getting so emotional about a certain topic.

Also, if royal really wasn't hdrakon, which is what we are arguing here, he would be able to provide evidence to prove he wasn't. However, all that he does is come up with a new story each time, which is something that no one here is taking into consideration. Royal, i dont know if you know this, but I've tracked each story that you've told me of who you claim to be, and this is the first time you even mentioned "Vermeer" in any of your stories. Ok it was an hdrakon alt, cool. But this is a new part of your story that hasn't come up before. On top of this, each time the details of your story are slightly different each time. One time you said that you just joined mystics, THEN met hdrakon. Then you said you met hdrakon on his MAIN account, then joined mystics. Another time you said you joined mystics, never met hdrakon, then he came online one day and you thought he was cool. Now you say you met his alt account, then joined mystics.. This is clearly a moving target, and its irrefutable and undefendable evidence that your story is changing.

On top of this, lets look at the language used by Mobster in his last little text wall..

As for Acquiesce he beg to make you mod when he resigned from moderator team to satisfy your desires after you were turned down one or couple of times, you're a snake whose ego is monstrous you became more visibly toxic in the community ever since you left the mod team you were like this for a very long time.

"You're a snake whose ego is monstrous.."
"You became visibly toxic.."

This is quite some harsh language being used by someone who claims to just be a friend of hdrakons. This sounds more like personal vendetta kind of language rather than someone who is looking at the situation factually and using evidence. On a totally new note, it is known that hdrakon has somehow been able to spy on the mod forum, and now others know about this information like mobster and are using it to defend hdrakon? This is evidence that he hdrakon should probably be banned again for a longer period of time, including the royal account who has yet to actually disprove that he isn't hdrakon.

Thats all i have to say about that, i dont claim to take one side on this situation, but I try to look at the facts of the situation.

You ACTUALLY think i'm hdrakon? I thought this was a joke. Want me to talk to you on my main account? I don't know what you're talking about, but i'm not sure if you know that I am not the first person to use this account. For a time at the start of 2016 the user 'Aqollo' was using this account. I began using this account in the summer, and this is the first time I have ever told of my origin story publicly. If you knew my main account then you would understand I am telling the truth, but it's funny how the moderators already are aware I am not hdrakon (hence not being banned) yet you and other haters think it's your duty to ignore the obvious with your crazy hdrakon theories and insist that I am hdrakon. Once you're online I'll talk to you on my real account and shut you up once and for all.

oh so now other people had access to this account beforehand too? add that one to the list of changing stories now, thats a new one. I must say your a good persuasive writer, but it doesnt work on me. I am still waiting for some sort of factual basis...

edit: also if i were u id just embrace it since your r10 on this account anyways, it doesnt really matter if your him or not.. id just prefer honesty and an end to the drama of your rage

Don't know if you're trolling or not, but it's a known fact Aqollo used this account before me. I am not hdrakon, and if you want proof just ask the mods or the admins. Bye.
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01.12.2016 - 14:02
 Mobster (Mod)
Geschreven door Permamuted, 01.12.2016 at 11:02

Geschreven door Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 09:48



Of course you "don't hate him nor have any grudge towards him" you only insult him, talk bad about him and try to turn people against him for fun because this kind of thing bring you joy half year since he was last time online!
This is all you have about him nothing more because he wasn't as bad as you try to make him look. When cobra was spamming help chat hdrakon wasn't banned like you say... You're again talking nonsense and cherry picked the screen shots out of context to fit your agenda again. For example the 2 private chat screenshot you posted in which you censor the name of the other was between hdrakon and Al Fappino when Fappino illogically started to attack hdrakon on the forum and then when they had a private conversation Al Fappino faked his part to take a out of context screenshot.

You on the other hand insult randomly players like Commando Eagle, Klevis, King Jim without their provocation I'm sure you do this to others too. So I am done with you, you seem to suffer from superiority complex and ego centric disorder. While hdrakon only respondd to hostility with hostility you act with hostility because you don't like the other even if that person done nothing to provoke your nasty mean comments. And the email fishing story seems clearly like someone tried to frame him but I am not sure if your hatred to him block your common sense but evidently it looks so...


Its such a boring never ending circle of excuses and hdrakon apologists. But you're right that hdrakon wasnt banned during the cobra period. That was actually after amok publically told him to piss off getting a fuckload of upvotes. I do know how much hdrakon values his reputation which is why you are here. I imagine that really pissed him off.

I dont know who you are, but theres something awfully weird going on with you royal and hdrakon. You all parrot the same insults, share the same prejudices, you know whats going on in the modforum. You even knew that screenshot involved al fappino. hdrakon is either feeding you these posts or hes on this account. Its all very odd and dysfunctional.

So you admit you lied about cobra. What else you lied about? Perhaps everything you said? You lost your credibility.
I know about Al Fappino and everything else you said because I asked hdrakon and he provide evidences something you don't do.
And I can also see why hdrakon was criticising Amok when looking how Amok neglect his part with the map editor so far. hdrakon had a point, he spoke the truth and touched Amok's sensitive spot with his honesty this is why Amok reacted the way he did when most of the community still had no courage to speak what they really think. I bet hdrakon didn't care a bit. But you can imagine what you want.
You have nothing more to say so let's end this conversation there's nothing more to add unless you want to expose yourself more as a liar.
Laden...
Laden...
01.12.2016 - 14:13
Geschreven door Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 14:02

So you admit you lied about cobra. What else you lied about? Perhaps everything you said? You lost your credibility.
I know about Al Fappino and everything else you said because I asked hdrakon and he provide evidences something you don't do.
And I can also see why hdrakon was criticising Amok when looking how Amok neglect his part with the map editor so far. hdrakon had a point, he spoke the truth and touched Amok's sensitive spot with his honesty this is why Amok reacted the way he did when most of the community still had no courage to speak what they really think. I bet hdrakon didn't care a bit. But you can imagine what you want.
You have nothing more to say so let's end this conversation there's nothing more to add unless you want to expose yourself more as a liar.


hahaha

>laochra allegedly lied about the timing of cobras spamming
>therefore everything laochra says is a lie.

gg no re. Nice try hdrakon.
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01.12.2016 - 14:21
 Mobster (Mod)
Geschreven door Permamuted, 01.12.2016 at 14:13

Geschreven door Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 14:02

So you admit you lied about cobra. What else you lied about? Perhaps everything you said? You lost your credibility.
I know about Al Fappino and everything else you said because I asked hdrakon and he provide evidences something you don't do.
And I can also see why hdrakon was criticising Amok when looking how Amok neglect his part with the map editor so far. hdrakon had a point, he spoke the truth and touched Amok's sensitive spot with his honesty this is why Amok reacted the way he did when most of the community still had no courage to speak what they really think. I bet hdrakon didn't care a bit. But you can imagine what you want.
You have nothing more to say so let's end this conversation there's nothing more to add unless you want to expose yourself more as a liar.


hahaha

>laochra allegedly lied about the timing of cobras spamming
>therefore everything laochra says is a lie.

gg no re. Nice try hdrakon.


Everything you have is theories and allegations against him, your reference to Vril and Cobra just strengthen this. Anything you say shall be taken with a grain of salt, your trustworthiness isn't worth much.
Laden...
Laden...
01.12.2016 - 16:36
Geschreven door Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 14:02

Geschreven door Permamuted, 01.12.2016 at 11:02

Geschreven door Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 09:48



Of course you "don't hate him nor have any grudge towards him" you only insult him, talk bad about him and try to turn people against him for fun because this kind of thing bring you joy half year since he was last time online!
This is all you have about him nothing more because he wasn't as bad as you try to make him look. When cobra was spamming help chat hdrakon wasn't banned like you say... You're again talking nonsense and cherry picked the screen shots out of context to fit your agenda again. For example the 2 private chat screenshot you posted in which you censor the name of the other was between hdrakon and Al Fappino when Fappino illogically started to attack hdrakon on the forum and then when they had a private conversation Al Fappino faked his part to take a out of context screenshot.

You on the other hand insult randomly players like Commando Eagle, Klevis, King Jim without their provocation I'm sure you do this to others too. So I am done with you, you seem to suffer from superiority complex and ego centric disorder. While hdrakon only respondd to hostility with hostility you act with hostility because you don't like the other even if that person done nothing to provoke your nasty mean comments. And the email fishing story seems clearly like someone tried to frame him but I am not sure if your hatred to him block your common sense but evidently it looks so...


Its such a boring never ending circle of excuses and hdrakon apologists. But you're right that hdrakon wasnt banned during the cobra period. That was actually after amok publically told him to piss off getting a fuckload of upvotes. I do know how much hdrakon values his reputation which is why you are here. I imagine that really pissed him off.

I dont know who you are, but theres something awfully weird going on with you royal and hdrakon. You all parrot the same insults, share the same prejudices, you know whats going on in the modforum. You even knew that screenshot involved al fappino. hdrakon is either feeding you these posts or hes on this account. Its all very odd and dysfunctional.

So you admit you lied about cobra. What else you lied about? Perhaps everything you said? You lost your credibility.
I know about Al Fappino and everything else you said because I asked hdrakon and he provide evidences something you don't do.
And I can also see why hdrakon was criticising Amok when looking how Amok neglect his part with the map editor so far. hdrakon had a point, he spoke the truth and touched Amok's sensitive spot with his honesty this is why Amok reacted the way he did when most of the community still had no courage to speak what they really think. I bet hdrakon didn't care a bit. But you can imagine what you want.
You have nothing more to say so let's end this conversation there's nothing more to add unless you want to expose yourself more as a liar.

this was also incoherent. try reading what lao says first before posting. thanks
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Laden...
Laden...
24.12.2016 - 08:13
I'm only qualified to answer one question.
Clans, the rise of SM, why did Bonk create it, how have they managed to be so strong for so long while other clans have fallen apart.
The story is quite simple, from my side:
I was a faggot, who liked this game quite a lot back in 2012. The rise of Stalins Martians came through a time at Dalmati pups? (I believe they were called that back then. We were a training coalition for the well-known Dalmati.) I met people as b0nker and Pulse there, we gained experience through our time there, maybe it was short but i met b0nker. And he came with the idea to get out and start our own, I saw this as an opportunity. I myself never evovled to become a dominant player on the skillm I had a great period in the early stages of SM but saw that my skills wasnt improving. So i was the passive part of Stalins martians early rise, I was the exact opposite of b0nker he was a cold-hearted and dominant person, but i always cared more for the community and the players than the competitive stage. We saw players like Dbacks and V-Dog, making this huge change in our gameplay to become one of the top clans. I fell off after 2 seasons, went inactive. So the story of how they managed to stay stable, strong are not mine to tell. This was just a short summary of the beginning of SM.
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We are not the same - I am a Martian.
Once Martian - Always Martian.
Laden...
Laden...
22.01.2017 - 06:15
In the beginning, when Amok and Ivan created the AFTERWIND*
the game was far better place than now
I miss the most Afterwind Movie Night http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=6269
and all friends who quith Afterwind
in past game was more friendly,interesting,funny,excellent competition from players, each game was more difficult to win
today there are too many unfriendly players:Tito,Croat ,Commando Eagle.........
RP players,sp farmers ,elo farmers ,coalition farmers







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Laden...
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23.01.2017 - 09:45
afterwind <3 #makeatwargreatagain #afterwindnotatwar xd

2012 was best experience for me in this game :$ firstly no maps and no maps/scenarios.. cln wars were so fcking interesting ( i cant tell too much cuz ivent played them too much in dalmati pups) but i watched a lot...
and it was not just thing in elo it was about clnmates and friendship good ol' days :$

Eu map was played mostly on competitive scene tho there were some plays on euroasia and murica

SM wow.. my first cw.. sweden and that strat.. killed DeviL Germany :3 epic scene in-game and in cln chat... such beautiful part of my memory :3

CWs were more followed then today.. i know ppl would wait for them leaved from games just to watch.. it was cool and funny and interesting, community was like a big family ..
and ofc i think ussually players would pick UK/germ.. but it wasnt "rule".. ppl would just agree to follow that or not.

I would add tesla, VRIL, deviL to legends .. there are also a lot of good players but i dont remember nicknames or they changed it

Dueling was not so followed as CWs if i remember corectlly.. :/

By far i wrote some of my experiences.. All in all more positive experiences in that time then now(still game is pretty good but you know friendship/clnmates it was like a big family as i said previously... good ol' times)
n3o out! (some of older players maybe know me by this name :3 )
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24.01.2017 - 01:08
If i remember correctly, blitz rc was op in world games back in 2011
Laden...
Laden...
28.01.2017 - 17:58
Geschreven door joedtaxi, 09.09.2016 at 15:31

Mk-illy rivalry best rivalry
Laden...
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28.01.2017 - 18:11
I remember when there were no scenarios or custom maps. The craze when people were able to create shit was fucking unbelievable, despite all the maps made immediately being total shit.

UN games were fucking terrible too.
Laden...
Laden...
29.01.2017 - 10:41
Geschreven door avatar, 22.01.2017 at 06:15

today there are too many unfriendly players:Tito,Croat ,Commando Eagle


Wait, you put me in the basket with trash of afterwind? What the hell is going on here, first meester and now you, my friends are turning against me.

Ok unfriend from friendlist, and give back macedonia to greece you little bitola prick. When you invited me to come, i really considered it, but now forget it, if i come it will be only to piss on your little fag country.
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Laden...
Laden...
29.01.2017 - 11:48
I remember when I could fill something that isn't WW1
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Laden...
Laden...
10.04.2017 - 18:33
Geschreven door Skanderbeg, 29.01.2017 at 10:41

Geschreven door avatar, 22.01.2017 at 06:15

today there are too many unfriendly players:Tito,Croat ,Commando Eagle


Wait, you put me in the basket with trash of afterwind? What the hell is going on here, first meester and now you, my friends are turning against me.

Ok unfriend from friendlist, and give back macedonia to greece you little bitola prick. When you invited me to come, i really considered it, but now forget it, if i come it will be only to piss on your little fag country.


AXAXAXAAXXAAX just saw that! 10/10 comment xD
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16.04.2017 - 02:02
Geschreven door Khal.eesi, 10.04.2017 at 18:33

Geschreven door Skanderbeg, 29.01.2017 at 10:41

Geschreven door avatar, 22.01.2017 at 06:15

today there are too many unfriendly players:Tito,Croat ,Commando Eagle


Wait, you put me in the basket with trash of afterwind? What the hell is going on here, first meester and now you, my friends are turning against me.

Ok unfriend from friendlist, and give back macedonia to greece you little bitola prick. When you invited me to come, i really considered it, but now forget it, if i come it will be only to piss on your little fag country.


AXAXAXAAXXAAX just saw that! 10/10 comment xD

AXAXAXAAXXAAXAXAXAXAAXXAAX
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