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Geplaatst door Unleasheds Wrath, 27.06.2014 - 08:15
There are many t-shirts with his face, worn by people who barely even know his name. There was a time when I believed Che Guevara was cool, a hero, and I loved his quotes. Like everyone else, I fell for the propaganda. This will sting the socialists here, because the truth is uncomfortable, but it is also empowering. Because you rise above others when you know it.

This is the murderer you are worshipping: http://youtu.be/1eMLk1nQh5o?t=46m59s
30.06.2014 - 14:45
Oh, Unleashed... you sad, sad, little boy. Clinging onto conspiracies a no name on YouTube spouts and deeming them fact because he says it to be true all in hope that these 'facts' help convince people that their life is a lie to make them as miserable as you. We really should pity you.

Hopefully you get fixed before you're beyond repair buddy!
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30.06.2014 - 14:50
Geschreven door Fockmeeard, 30.06.2014 at 14:45

Oh, Unleashed... you sad, sad, little boy. Clinging onto conspiracies a no name on YouTube spouts and deeming them fact because he says it to be true all in hope that these 'facts' help convince people that their life is a lie to make them as miserable as you. We really should pity you.

Hopefully you get fixed before you're beyond repair buddy!


Basically you just keep repeating the same nonsense. I know you didn't understand anything. How could you?

I can't be mad and yell at someone for being too short. It's not in their conscious control (well there actually is a way but just for the sake of argument I'll pretend there's not)

I can't be mad and yell at someone for having black skin.

I can't be mad and yell at you for being an idiot. You *can't* surpass that.
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30.06.2014 - 14:54
Geschreven door Unleasheds Wrath, 30.06.2014 at 14:50

I can't be mad and yell at you for being an idiot. You *can't* surpass that.


99.9% of atwar feels the same about you! We finally found common ground!
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30.06.2014 - 15:05
Geschreven door Fockmeeard, 30.06.2014 at 14:54

Geschreven door Unleasheds Wrath, 30.06.2014 at 14:50

I can't be mad and yell at you for being an idiot. You *can't* surpass that.


99.9% of atwar feels the same about you! We finally found common ground!


You already know I am beyond the point of being affected by that.

Idiots always band together against the thing that is uncomfortable to them (truth), or against new ideas. This is the history of the world.

It just further proves my point. Idiots will always feel threatened and uncomfortable around truth because it dismantles their illusions. And don't get me wrong - I want stupid people to dislike me. That's actually GOOD. The moment idiots begin to love me, I will begin to worry

Lastly, once again you prove how much you care about what other people think. You'll forever be a slave to other people's opinions. I'm genuinely sorry for what you will go through.
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30.06.2014 - 15:57
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Geschreven door Unleasheds Wrath, 30.06.2014 at 15:05

Geschreven door Fockmeeard, 30.06.2014 at 14:54

Geschreven door Unleasheds Wrath, 30.06.2014 at 14:50

I can't be mad and yell at you for being an idiot. You *can't* surpass that.


99.9% of atwar feels the same about you! We finally found common ground!


You already know I am beyond the point of being affected by that.

Idiots always band together against the thing that is uncomfortable to them (truth), or against new ideas. This is the history of the world.

It just further proves my point. Idiots will always feel threatened and uncomfortable around truth because it dismantles their illusions. And don't get me wrong - I want stupid people to dislike me. That's actually GOOD. The moment idiots begin to love me, I will begin to worry

Lastly, once again you prove how much you care about what other people think. You'll forever be a slave to other people's opinions. I'm genuinely sorry for what you will go through.
And I am sorry for what you go through.
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30.06.2014 - 18:07
Geschreven door Unleasheds Wrath, 30.06.2014 at 15:05
Idiots always band together against the thing that is uncomfortable to them (truth), or against new ideas. This is the history of the world.

Most world conflicts start because people follow this exactly same concept of "truth" and feel the need to push it to everyone else who won't share the same opinion. As if there was an absolute truth about anything...
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01.07.2014 - 07:57
Geschreven door Pinheiro, 30.06.2014 at 18:07

Geschreven door Unleasheds Wrath, 30.06.2014 at 15:05
Idiots always band together against the thing that is uncomfortable to them (truth), or against new ideas. This is the history of the world.

Most world conflicts start because people follow this exactly same concept of "truth" and feel the need to push it to everyone else who won't share the same opinion. As if there was an absolute truth about anything...


" god doesn't exist" is not an opinion. it's a fact.

"But where is your proof?" someone will say. And here we go again, the same retardation to which I responded and repeated myself countless times, but went unprocessed everytime by the idiotic minds of monkeys.
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01.07.2014 - 08:55
It's a fact to you (and to me as well, by the way), but you don't need to convince the whole world to have the same point of view about the world and religion. Actually, this is exactly what I've said earlier in this thread: attacking someone elses believes only shows how insecure you're with your own. The most homophobic people in the world are the ones that are too afraid of having any sexual attraction to someone of their own gender. If you are sure of your opinion, you don't need to attack anyone that acts, feels or believe on different things.
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01.07.2014 - 09:02
Why did i start discussing with unleashed? now all AW will go apeshit ;_;
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01.07.2014 - 10:01
Geschreven door Pinheiro, 01.07.2014 at 08:55

It's a fact to you (and to me as well, by the way), but you don't need to convince the whole world to have the same point of view about the world and religion.


LOL! There's no such thing as fact to you or fact to me. You don't say that gravity is a fact to you and me only. Facts are facts, period. Everything else regarding this subject is an insane illusion. I preserve my right to attack and insult beliefs that are offensive,insulting, and threatening to me. (and everyone else, including you.) If you preffer to live in a world of insane lunatics, then please continue to do so. I preffer reality, and I preffer to not be surrounded by irrational idiots.


Geschreven door Pinheiro, 01.07.2014 at 08:55
If you are sure of your opinion, you don't need to attack anyone that acts, feels or believe on different things.


Quite the contrary, it's because I am so sure that I am right, that enables me to see this bullshit and speak against it. If I were unsure, I'd shut the fuck up. (something unsure people usually find hard and difficult to do. You've witnessed it in this thrread, tipritz, cloivs etc)


Geschreven door Pinheiro, 01.07.2014 at 08:55
The most homophobic people in the world are the ones that are too afraid of having any sexual attraction to someone of their own gender.



You mean Che was scared of faggots? I thought he was a courageous hero. Besides, you *forgot* to answer to my post on the previous page


Geschreven door Pinheiro, 01.07.2014 at 08:55

Actually, this is exactly what I've said earlier in this thread: attacking someone elses believes only shows how insecure you're with your own. The most homophobic people in the world are the ones that are too afraid of having any sexual attraction to someone of their own gender. If you are sure of your opinion, you don't need to attack anyone that acts, feels or believe on different things.


This is how you sound:

"Actually, this is exactly what I've said earlier in this thread: attacking someone elses attempts to threaten and terrorize you only shows how insecure you're with your own. The most homophobic people in the world are the ones that are too afraid of having any sexual attraction to someone of their own gender. If you are sure of your opinion, you don't need to attack anyone that threatens you, wants to control, manipulate you and profit from you, or believe on different things that have caused millions of deaths and tortures in the past."


Dude, seriously. Do something about this way of thinking of yours. Stop being so neutral, especially when you are smart enough not to be fooled by this religious crap. Neutrality is cowardice.
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02.07.2014 - 07:40
Geschreven door Pinheiro, 01.07.2014 at 08:55

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So why did you go silent now? Don't be shy. If you disagree, that's fine, tell me. But I think even you realized that I'm right. Let's call the typical religious retard "That Guy"

Again, this is how outrageously ridiculous you sound to me:

So That Guy over there has an opinion that sounds like this: anyone who doesn't believe what I believe is evil and will go to hell for eternity. Fuck tolerance"

Pinheiro: You should tolerate that guy's opinion. Everyone has different opinions, and you should tolerate them.


Really? You mean I should tolerate something that threatens and attacks me, and that shows zero tolerance toward nonbelivers (mentally healthy people) ? Are you telling me I should accept threats and attacks? Because everyone has an *opinion*? Hahah. I don't think you realize how insane this is. That's self-harm you are advising right there, and since you're advising it you might be doing it yourself in one way or another. Think it through.
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02.07.2014 - 08:59
I'm not saying you shouldn't defend your opinion or yourself. That's your right (just like you have the right to express yourself and your opinions). What I'm saying is that I can't agree with that aggressive position towards others. And yes, I've acted that way myself in the past because I've felt offended by some of them too, but I think the best response in this case is to show how rational we are compared to extremist opinions.

Even if your objective is to convince others about your point of view, then again you're doing it wrong. People are much less propense to accept a different opinion if it's based on hate and offenses to their own believes. I argue with other people about religion, divine and the concept of "god", but I try to do it in a respectful manner. To those not willing to respect me, I simply refuse to discuss, since it will be pointless anyway.
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02.07.2014 - 10:45
El Che, was a badass communist that started revolutions in countries with dictators, don't forget that he had a cool beard and he killed homosexuals.
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02.07.2014 - 13:18
You are disarming as usual, but I still have some questions.

Geschreven door Pinheiro, 02.07.2014 at 08:59

What I'm saying is that I can't agree with that aggressive position towards others.


Why can you not agree with an agressive position towards people who have agressive and offensive viewpoints themselves?

I hope you won't ignore this question.


Geschreven door Pinheiro, 02.07.2014 at 08:59

Even if your objective is to convince others about your point of view, then again you're doing it wrong. People are much less propense to accept a different opinion if it's based on hate and offenses to their own believes. I argue with other people about religion, divine and the concept of "god", but I try to do it in a respectful manner. To those not willing to respect me, I simply refuse to discuss, since it will be pointless anyway.


Stupid (most) people will not even attempt a different view, no matter how nice you are. People who are smart will see the bullshit regardless if it's presented in an agressive or nonagressive way. I am well aware that I can't convince others. But there is always the possibility that a few, a very few in number, will pick up on it and will start questioning and finding out for themselves. They are the ones who are smart enough to understand that agressiveness towards something as retarded as religion is not necessary, but understandable.


"Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do."
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02.07.2014 - 13:59
Well, yeah, you can convince some people even by acting aggresive, but I've decided, personally, to act in another way. It's just a different approach after all and I wish you luck if that's your objective. I'm just satisfied with my own opinion on that matter and I can live with their opinion, as long as it doesn't affect me directly.

Of course I feel the need to step up when I see religious extremist trying to interfer in other people lifes. In cases like freedom to have abortion and gay marriage, for example, I try to argue and present facts. Right now I'm strating to get more involved in politics to support my positions.

As for Che being insecure about his sexuality (just to bring things a little bit back on topic): yes, that could actually be the case. As I said earlier, he had many problems, specially when he was in the government bu that's not the reason I admire him. Every single person in the world is full of complexity and our idols aren't special at all.
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02.07.2014 - 14:09
Geschreven door Pinheiro, 02.07.2014 at 13:59

As for Che being insecure about his sexuality (just to bring things a little bit back on topic): yes, that could actually be the case. As I said earlier, he had many problems, specially when he was in the government bu that's not the reason I admire him. Every single person in the world is full of complexity and our idols aren't special at all.


I don't think so. I mean, he raped a servant girl once on the food table. but I still don't think that's the case. I doubt people dislike gays because of fear. Stefan Molyneux said that if we have or worship heroes, that prevents us from being like them. I still need to process that one some more as I don't fully understand it. I think it alludes to individuality and being your own hero.
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02.07.2014 - 14:18
I think it alludes to individuality and being your own hero.
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02.07.2014 - 14:22
Geschreven door Tundy, 02.07.2014 at 10:45

don't forget that he had a cool beard and he killed homosexuals.


About the size I have right now, but tonight is slay el che beard night

Fresh like a baby

Che had a melancolic smile. Quando todo, Santa clara

Se despierta para verte
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02.07.2014 - 14:31
And to end this, happily for everyone, here's a video I made a long time ago about Che Guevara. Proof that I wasn't always an *evil* person

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21.11.2014 - 16:49
CHE IS TRUE HERO !!! GG
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21.11.2014 - 17:21
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Geschreven door Ferlucci1389, 21.11.2014 at 16:49

CHE IS TRUE HERO !!! GG


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21.11.2014 - 19:15
Geschreven door Guest, 21.11.2014 at 17:21

Geschreven door Ferlucci1389, 21.11.2014 at 16:49

CHE IS TRUE HERO !!! GG




when you say you are form korea, north, does that mean north is a country? as in north pole? with an area called city? can you tell santa I said hi?
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21.11.2014 - 19:20
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Geschreven door Pheonixking929, 21.11.2014 at 19:15

Geschreven door Guest, 21.11.2014 at 17:21

Geschreven door Ferlucci1389, 21.11.2014 at 16:49

CHE IS TRUE HERO !!! GG




when you say you are form korea, north, does that mean north is a country? as in north pole? with an area called city? can you tell santa I said hi?


where does it say that ?
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21.11.2014 - 20:06
Geschreven door Guest, 21.11.2014 at 19:20

Geschreven door Pheonixking929, 21.11.2014 at 19:15

Geschreven door Guest, 21.11.2014 at 17:21

Geschreven door Ferlucci1389, 21.11.2014 at 16:49

CHE IS TRUE HERO !!! GG




when you say you are form korea, north, does that mean north is a country? as in north pole? with an area called city? can you tell santa I said hi?


where does it say that ?

YOU BASTARD. YOU CHANGED WHERE YOU'RE FROM
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