RP-maps : honnest test and observation [avoid polemics, thx]

Hello.

I've just played an RP maps. Yeah, the RP could be really cool. I won't tell you details about what we did as Role Play, that was the cool part. With good player, it's always fun.

But.

I won 3K SP. I'm a beginner and i find that extremly high.
What i can see at the end of the game (around turn 42) :
- "Wanna make an alliance win ?" --> Because if you don't do, other get half SP, boohoohoo... Let's put Role Play to the trash because SP are more important ?
- "You don't make an alliance win ? Ok, let's make a stealth attack without any RP" --> Yay, that's obviously RP to play like that.

And the "stupidity" of that RP-thing is here at the begining too :
- "OMG don't spread !!" to someone who take a single country outside of his first area (exemple : begining in Korea and taking the mandchou part of China as 4th country)
At least, i could understand if someone say that because there is already a China player... But in other case, that's non-sense to accuse poeple like that.
I find it even more disturbing when i see everyone rushing on neutral area in a RP game without any explication. It's obvious to make a complete France for example, or complete Russia... But continuing without having to explain. Well, let's just recall RP-maps "Colonization".

So, i tested, i found that it's REALLY easy to be indestructible even against a sneaky attack of 100+ marines near the capital city with 0 unit in it. 10+ bunkers + external infantry... tada.
Most of the players i saw were there to make SP, not to play an interresting RP.

I don't say RP-maps are bad, they give a really interresting other way to play and it's somewhat fun. But imo of beginners, i find the gain abusive. Consequences : greedy players, lack of skills who provoke a non-use of interresting troops.
The idea is good, but it really needs improvement imo. So i hope this feedback could help to solve some of the problems in it.
1st. Many troops could be interresting, but some of them are OP and i find there's just "too many troops".
2nd. Too much gain of SP
3rd. Players don't care about rules or apply them stupidly...
4rd. Excessive income (+25000 turn 3? WUT ?!)

What could be interresting for the "too many troops". Specialize more the cities / barracks / ...
I don't know where you imagine a city like Paris can create everything that can destroy. The City can provide poeple, army, forces... But lots of other stuffs are in dedicated laboratory-cities, huge military base, military airport, port, ...
With so many city and base, this could be really interresting to put a strategic importance in it !

Specialized bases will be an important objectif for first strategical step in a war. Because actually it's "take every city, run fast to the capital !"
An example to be understood :

Player own Germany and France, he have all the base and cities.
- Cities provides high income, basic troops. (ultra basics, be realistic, cities can't build a tanks if they're not specialized to do it)
- Each bases provides a sort of specialized / advanced units.


... That's my opinion, my observation, my suggestion.
Let's hope it could give some ideas to do better. Avoid polemics, let poeple play what they like and i like Role Play (but not the possible abuses i see).

The income indeed is one of the main reasons why you get a ton of SP.
Although I dislike the map, others do. They should be able to play it if they want. But there clearly is something wrong with the SP amount you get on it. Something should be done.

It SHOULD be banned for SP farming, at least in the long term. I hate how popular it is but we can't really stop people from liking what they like. But the ridiculous amount of SP is rewarding its awful playerbase. So you get rank 6s who don't wall and stuff

Geschreven door Aetius, 29.05.2014 at 12:49

It SHOULD be banned for SP farming, at least in the long term. I hate how popular it is but we can't really stop people from liking what they like. But the ridiculous amount of SP is rewarding its awful playerbase. So you get rank 6s who don't wall and stuff

This.
Some people have gotten from rank 3 to rank 5 in 1 RP game.

I just want to explain to players that mods can't directly interfer in the maps at the moment and there is no consensus on how to define what is or isn't SP farming, but I'm pretty sure it will get changed to avoid mass sp gain.

Or You can farm the map , Get a friend to help you dominate the world.

Geschreven door Andronicos, 05.06.2014 at 12:20

My SP gain in RP games for 50 or so rounds is between 1.5k and 2k usually. Rarley got 3k. Just because some of you guys think its cool to hate it doesn't make it bad.

No ones hatin, ok maybe a few, but I'm not gonna make fun of you for playing what u enjoy. However, I will make fun of you for not knowing how to wall, and how to play competitively by r7,8. Like it's ok to be moony wen ur r4, but u need to also learn eu games that require pure skill and money management, compared to mass rushes, and mass income, and mass stacks.

Edit: *nooby, not moony lol

If i play and win an RP i will always get 3k+ SP. It's definately too easy to get SP from those games. No effort and huge reward.