Who should be supported in the Syrian CIvil War?

I just read a story about Syrian troops clearing out another town from ISIS. Considering the complex situation going on, who do you think the US, Russia, and other world powers should support? Is this a choice between Assad or ISIS? Or are there rebel groups like Euphrates Volcano you think should be supported? Should the Kurds have their own state? Should Assad remain in power? How does this war end? Can we support all sides?

Free Kurdistan

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 11:09

Free Kurdistan

What do you think should happen if Turkey enters a civil war? Should the US intervene given the tendency of groups like Al-Qaeda to infiltrate countries in civil wars and form organize networks?

I will summon the Common Law to cite Kosovo case and demand you to recognize ISIS as legitimate country and seek UN membership.

Colonize it again, its clear blacks and arabs cant handle their own countries

*See this thread

*Remember the last time when I made a Trump thread

*Genuinely scared to submit his opinion about political things

*Becoming political correct.

Geschreven door Pheonixking929, 03.04.2016 at 11:12

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 11:09

Free Kurdistan

What do you think should happen if Turkey enters a civil war? Should the US intervene given the tendency of groups like Al-Qaeda to infiltrate countries in civil wars and form organize networks?

Eastern Turkey gets split between the Kurds and Armenia, Greeks take back Thrace and Constantinople, who cares about the rest its filled with kebabs

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 13:38

Geschreven door Pheonixking929, 03.04.2016 at 11:12

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 11:09

Free Kurdistan

What do you think should happen if Turkey enters a civil war? Should the US intervene given the tendency of groups like Al-Qaeda to infiltrate countries in civil wars and form organize networks?

Eastern Turkey gets split between the Kurds and Armenia, Greeks take back Thrace and Constantinople, who cares about the rest its filled with kebabs

In case you didn't know, were in 2016 and thrace and kostandinopoly dont exist anymore. Istambul exists.
If we go by many years ago and treat it like that, then you should give your home to native indians.
Oh and btw greece never owned thrace.

Im not surprised,most of americans have no idea whatsoever about history and geography

Geschreven door clovis1122, 03.04.2016 at 12:25

*Remember the last time when I made a Trump thread

Pls link to that thread pls

Assad is the only man that can get Syria back on its feet.

Geschreven door Ghostface, 03.04.2016 at 14:47

Assad is the only man that can get Syria back on its feet.

Lmao what? Assad is the reason why Syria is on war in the first place. Killing his own civilians by overdosing them with sarin gas which paralyses them and simply kills them. The one section that is not in this list, should be '''The Syrian Civilians''. I don't know if they are the ''Rebels'' but if they are. The rest is just bullshit.

Geschreven door Waffel, 03.04.2016 at 14:53

Geschreven door Ghostface, 03.04.2016 at 14:47

Assad is the only man that can get Syria back on its feet.

Lmao what? Assad is the reason why Syria is on war in the first place. Killing his own civilians by overdosing them with sarin gas which paralyses them and simply kills them. The one section that is not in this list, should be '''The Syrian Civilians''. I don't know if they are the ''Rebels'' but if they are. The rest is just bullshit.

would you rather have ISIS control Syria or split between the kurdis or to be another American satelite like Iraq where bombings are everyday story....

Syrian force ofc.

Geschreven door Ghostface, 03.04.2016 at 15:00

Geschreven door Waffel, 03.04.2016 at 14:53

Geschreven door Ghostface, 03.04.2016 at 14:47

Assad is the only man that can get Syria back on its feet.

Lmao what? Assad is the reason why Syria is on war in the first place. Killing his own civilians by overdosing them with sarin gas which paralyses them and simply kills them. The one section that is not in this list, should be '''The Syrian Civilians''. I don't know if they are the ''Rebels'' but if they are. The rest is just bullshit.

would you rather have ISIS control Syria or split between the kurdis or to be another American satelite like Iraq where bombings are everyday story....

Well as far as I know ISIS has already more control in Syria than Assad does, Both of them need to get away and those refugees (males) leaving their countries should fight for their country. I mean America and the NATO are not a good solution either and that is what makes Assad's strategy look less worse, but its as worse as the rest. How about the Arabian countries helping Syria?

I will go with Assad, at least he is the lesser evil when it come to relationship with Christian.. Last time we took down Saddam Hussein, that didn't go well. Last time we took out Gaddafi, it didn't went well. the Syrian rebel are mostly radical Islamist, very scary. Last time I check Syrian rebel were butchering Christian, left and right.

Geschreven door AlBoZzZ, 03.04.2016 at 13:47

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 13:38

Geschreven door Pheonixking929, 03.04.2016 at 11:12

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 11:09

Free Kurdistan

What do you think should happen if Turkey enters a civil war? Should the US intervene given the tendency of groups like Al-Qaeda to infiltrate countries in civil wars and form organize networks?

Eastern Turkey gets split between the Kurds and Armenia, Greeks take back Thrace and Constantinople, who cares about the rest its filled with kebabs

Im not surprised,most of americans have no idea whatsoever about history and geography

Judging by your past posts you really have no room to criticize anybodies history and geography knowledge

Geschreven door AlBoZzZ, 03.04.2016 at 13:47

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 13:38

Geschreven door Pheonixking929, 03.04.2016 at 11:12

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 11:09

Oh and btw greece never owned thrace.

This is the only point I'm going to address because it's the least stupid part of your uneducated reply


The Byzantine Empire was Greek in all but name, they spoke the language of the ancient Greeks and Byzantine culture was Greek in origin, so yes, Greeks have owned Thrace, Thrace and Western Turkey were filled with Greeks until the early 20th century when the turks that you look up to so much decided to ethnically cleanse all of Anatolia, stay in school Corrambo

Geschreven door Waffel, 03.04.2016 at 14:53

Geschreven door Ghostface, 03.04.2016 at 14:47

Assad is the only man that can get Syria back on its feet.

Lmao what? Assad is the reason why Syria is on war in the first place. Killing his own civilians by overdosing them with sarin gas which paralyses them and simply kills them. The one section that is not in this list, should be '''The Syrian Civilians''. I don't know if they are the ''Rebels'' but if they are. The rest is just bullshit.

How can Assad be the reason for civil war when his family developed the country for the last 40 years. Tourism, agriculture, industry, military. Syria was Middle Eastern America compared to other Arab states. Syria funded its students to study abroad, in America, Europe, Russia, subsidized entrepreneurs to open business and trade, gave freedom to women and created tolerant enviroment for muslims and christians alike.

It is already proven that rebels and terrorists used chemical weapons on civilians and syrian army, stolen from syrian military bases after they sacked them in civil war. It is already proven that American funded and trained 'moderate' rebels join ISIS en masse and transfer them American-sent weaponry.


muslim Assad in church

Anyway the reason the civil war started was because of 2011 arab springs in arab states , sponsored by USA .
Which actually caused 100 times more problems than it fixed things.... migrants , islamists , isis , wars etc

Geschreven door Ghostface, 03.04.2016 at 16:40

Anyway the reason the civil war started was because of 2011 arab springs in arab states , sponsored by USA .
Which actually caused 100 times more problems than it fixed things.... migrants , islamists , isis , wars etc

Only jews benefit from it

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 13:38

Geschreven door Pheonixking929, 03.04.2016 at 11:12

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 11:09

Free Kurdistan

What do you think should happen if Turkey enters a civil war? Should the US intervene given the tendency of groups like Al-Qaeda to infiltrate countries in civil wars and form organize networks?

Eastern Turkey gets split between the Kurds and Armenia, Greeks take back Thrace and Constantinople, who cares about the rest its filled with kebabs

Geschreven door Waffel, 03.04.2016 at 15:11

Well as far as I know ISIS has already more control in Syria than Assad does, Both of them need to get away and those refugees (males) leaving their countries should fight for their country. I mean America and the NATO are not a good solution either and that is what makes Assad's strategy look less worse, but its as worse as the rest. How about the Arabian countries helping Syria?

ISIS has more territorial control but Assad controls most of the major population hubs like Damascus, Latakia, Aleppo (partially), Tartus and Daara (partially). Also, why just males? Kurdish women fight, infact they make up almost 40% of the Kurdish army. It's not like in the middle ages when you needed to carry a heavy armour and a sword, anyone can lift a gun.

Geschreven door Zephyrusu, 05.04.2016 at 12:36

Geschreven door Waffel, 03.04.2016 at 15:11

Well as far as I know ISIS has already more control in Syria than Assad does, Both of them need to get away and those refugees (males) leaving their countries should fight for their country. I mean America and the NATO are not a good solution either and that is what makes Assad's strategy look less worse, but its as worse as the rest. How about the Arabian countries helping Syria?

ISIS has more territorial control but Assad controls most of the major population hubs like Damascus, Latakia, Aleppo (partially), Tartus and Daara (partially). Also, why just males? Kurdish women fight, infact they make up almost 40% of the Kurdish army. It's not like in the middle ages when you needed to carry a heavy armour and a sword, anyone can lift a gun.

Read. Just read. I said: '' And those refugees (males) leaving their countries should fight for their country'', meaning leaving their children and wifes in the country to die.. I mean I know ISIS and Al-Qaida are the bad guys, but just because they are worse than Assad doesn't make Assad's actions friendly and acceptable all of sudden? He was the one who started a Civil war in the ''Arab Spring'' where people wanted democracy in their country. I mean don't you see the corruptness just by thinking about a civil war, people protesting against assad, and him still being a president for more than a decade? Those people living in Syria are getting killed by their own government, by ISIS, by Al-Qaida who just have a free road into Syria... All I wonder is why the rest of the arabian countries don't do anything against it, and I assume thats because they don't want America justifying their actions once again and start another War in the Middle East.

Geschreven door Waffel, 05.04.2016 at 12:43

Geschreven door Zephyrusu, 05.04.2016 at 12:36

Geschreven door Waffel, 03.04.2016 at 15:11

Well as far as I know ISIS has already more control in Syria than Assad does, Both of them need to get away and those refugees (males) leaving their countries should fight for their country. I mean America and the NATO are not a good solution either and that is what makes Assad's strategy look less worse, but its as worse as the rest. How about the Arabian countries helping Syria?

ISIS has more territorial control but Assad controls most of the major population hubs like Damascus, Latakia, Aleppo (partially), Tartus and Daara (partially). Also, why just males? Kurdish women fight, infact they make up almost 40% of the Kurdish army. It's not like in the middle ages when you needed to carry a heavy armour and a sword, anyone can lift a gun.

Read. Just read. I said: '' And those refugees (males) leaving their countries should fight for their country'', meaning leaving their children and wifes in the country to die.. I mean I know ISIS and Al-Qaida are the bad guys, but just because they are worse than Assad doesn't make Assad's actions friendly and acceptable all of sudden? He was the one who started a Civil war in the ''Arab Spring'' where people wanted democracy in their country. I mean don't you see the corruptness just by thinking about a civil war, people protesting against assad, and him still being a president for more than a decade? Those people living in Syria are getting killed by their own government, by ISIS, by Al-Qaida who just have a free road into Syria... All I wonder is why the rest of the arabian countries don't do anything against it, and I assume thats because they don't want America justifying their actions once again and start another War in the Middle East.

Uh... how does that reply to any of the 2 points I raised? Also the reason the other Arab countries don't help is because they started the actual war by funding Jihadists so yeah.

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 15:52

Geschreven door AlBoZzZ, 03.04.2016 at 13:47

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 13:38

Geschreven door Pheonixking929, 03.04.2016 at 11:12

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 11:09

Free Kurdistan

What do you think should happen if Turkey enters a civil war? Should the US intervene given the tendency of groups like Al-Qaeda to infiltrate countries in civil wars and form organize networks?

Eastern Turkey gets split between the Kurds and Armenia, Greeks take back Thrace and Constantinople, who cares about the rest its filled with kebabs

Im not surprised,most of americans have no idea whatsoever about history and geography

Judging by your past posts you really have no room to criticize anybodies history and geography knowledge

Geschreven door AlBoZzZ, 03.04.2016 at 13:47

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 13:38

Geschreven door Pheonixking929, 03.04.2016 at 11:12

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 11:09

Oh and btw greece never owned thrace.

This is the only point I'm going to address because it's the least stupid part of your uneducated reply


The Byzantine Empire was Greek in all but name, they spoke the language of the ancient Greeks and Byzantine culture was Greek in origin, so yes, Greeks have owned Thrace, Thrace and Western Turkey were filled with Greeks until the early 20th century when the turks that you look up to so much decided to ethnically cleanse all of Anatolia, stay in school Corrambo

why do you keep posting stuff you have no knowledge of and keep making yourself look like an idiot, proving my point about you.
why dont you check to see if the map is really true or its a fake map before posting it here like a retard?

The roman empire was divided into 2 empires. Roman empire(with ROME as capital) & Byzantine empire ( costandinopoli as capital)
That map is fake just like your brain, because byzantine empire never had italy or rome, or else it would have been called as original big Rome empire, which would still not make sense because the big Rome Empire had controll of west europe aswell which is not marked in the map.

Just delete your post and i might delete this one too just so i can save you from humiliation. Stop showing youre a dumb ignorant, dude

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Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 11:09

Oh and btw greece never owned thrace.

This is the only point I'm going to address because it's the least stupid part of your uneducated reply


The Byzantine Empire was Greek in all but name, they spoke the language of the ancient Greeks and Byzantine culture was Greek in origin, so yes, Greeks have owned Thrace, Thrace and Western Turkey were filled with Greeks until the early 20th century when the turks that you look up to so much decided to ethnically cleanse all of Anatolia, stay in school Corrambo

why do you keep posting stuff you have no knowledge of and keep making yourself look like an idiot, proving my point about you.
why dont you check to see if the map is really true or its a fake map before posting it here like a retard?

The roman empire was divided into 2 empires. Roman empire(with ROME as capital) & Byzantine empire ( costandinopoli as capital)
That map is fake just like your brain, because byzantine empire never had italy or rome, or else it would have been called as original big Rome empire, which would still not make sense because the big Rome Empire had controll of west europe aswell which is not marked in the map.

Just delete your post and i might delete this one too just so i can save you from humiliation. Stop showing youre a dumb ignorant, dude

actually, the date of that map matches the reign of Emperor Justinian wh did actually reconquer much of that (with help from Best unknown general Belisarius). There's actually a really cool youtube series on his reign, I recommend watching it:

I only read some of the answers here, because quite frankly, all the others are plain retarded.


I think the answer to Syria is actually quite simple.

Support Assad and his government, he'll eventually democratize it (if that's the International Community goal, altough I think Assad is the only one capable of saving Syria right now), and he will crush the rebels/terrorists/separatists.

It's stupid to support literally 'ghosts' to take Assad out of power, probably slaughter him like Kadaffi and then plunge Syria into a deep civil war and humanitarian conflict, Libya stile, even more than what Syria is today.


Second thing should be giving the Kurds their own country. Unify Kurdistan from the countries in which it belongs (Iraq, Turkey, etc...) because they've proven themselves to be honourful, respectful, and big patriot/defenders of their country and people, and that is to be admired. They deserve independence and Middle east should agree with that, something that the International Community should also sponsor.


But the answer to Syria is to simply back Assad against his Opposition and Terrorists. As Assad said, he wouldn't be standing has President if he didnt have the support of his people..

Geschreven door Al Fappino, 05.04.2016 at 19:05

I only read some of the answers here, because quite frankly, all the others are plain retarded.


I think the answer to Syria is actually quite simple.

Support Assad and his government, he'll eventually democratize it (if that's the International Community goal, altough I think Assad is the only one capable of saving Syria right now), and he will crush the rebels/terrorists/separatists.

It's stupid to support literally 'ghosts' to take Assad out of power, probably slaughter him like Kadaffi and then plunge Syria into a deep civil war and humanitarian conflict, Libya stile, even more than what Syria is today.


Second thing should be giving the Kurds their own country. Unify Kurdistan from the countries in which it belongs (Iraq, Turkey, etc...) because they've proven themselves to be honourful, respectful, and big patriot/defenders of their country and people, and that is to be admired. They deserve independence and Middle east should agree with that, something that the International Community should also sponsor.


But the answer to Syria is to simply back Assad against his Opposition and Terrorists. As Assad said, he wouldn't be standing has President if he didnt have the support of his people..

I can agree with the Kurds. Unlike other groups that have been oppressed for centuries and then once they have power, they abuse others, Kurds do exact opposite. It's as if they've been oppressed so long that they realize that no one should be oppressed. They developed what I like to call "democratic conscience". Instead of democratic values/ideas being imported/forced onto countries, societies, and groups, they developed it on their own AND are willing to fight for it-successfully. If given their own country, I would be shocked if they were expansionist in nature (and did so for genocidal/militaristic goals).

Geschreven door AlBoZzZ, 05.04.2016 at 17:35

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 15:52

why do you keep posting stuff you have no knowledge of and keep making yourself look like an idiot, proving my point about you.
why dont you check to see if the map is really true or its a fake map before posting it here like a retard?

The roman empire was divided into 2 empires. Roman empire(with ROME as capital) & Byzantine empire ( costandinopoli as capital)
That map is fake just like your brain, because byzantine empire never had italy or rome, or else it would have been called as original big Rome empire, which would still not make sense because the big Rome Empire had controll of west europe aswell which is not marked in the map.

Just delete your post and i might delete this one too just so i can save you from humiliation. Stop showing youre a dumb ignorant, dude

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_War_(535%E2%80%93554)
Gothic War ended with the Byzantine Empire conquering all of Italy, Dalmatia, and Sicily
Corrambo you're making this too easy

Assad should take back the Golan.

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 05.04.2016 at 21:32

Geschreven door AlBoZzZ, 05.04.2016 at 17:35

Geschreven door Viruslegion, 03.04.2016 at 15:52

why do you keep posting stuff you have no knowledge of and keep making yourself look like an idiot, proving my point about you.
why dont you check to see if the map is really true or its a fake map before posting it here like a retard?

The roman empire was divided into 2 empires. Roman empire(with ROME as capital) & Byzantine empire ( costandinopoli as capital)
That map is fake just like your brain, because byzantine empire never had italy or rome, or else it would have been called as original big Rome empire, which would still not make sense because the big Rome Empire had controll of west europe aswell which is not marked in the map.

Just delete your post and i might delete this one too just so i can save you from humiliation. Stop showing youre a dumb ignorant, dude

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_War_(535%E2%80%93554)
Gothic War ended with the Byzantine Empire conquering all of Italy, Dalmatia, and Sicily
Corrambo you're making this too easy

I'm starting to think albania doesn't teach history.