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Geplaatst door Mauzer Panteri, 07.10.2017 - 15:15
Strikers :

1. MP
2. Nero
3. Lemonade / first mod.
4. TheDarkLord12
5. Sphinx
6. Steve Aoki
7. lcarus.M.T.
8. Sexy Girl
9. Gardevior
10. RoaiStyle
11. Laochra
12. GhostFace
13. Sascha
14. Fight Shadow
15. Nations vs nwo.
16. Hellykin
17. G.R.O.M
18. Trystane
19. FlameandFury
20. LukeTan
21. Your Monkey
22. NorthernPeick
23. Jester
24. Invisible
25.
26. Darth.
27. Jaredb027
28. Kogi
29. FreeCandyVan
30. SubipraDebadhikary
31. Revot
32. Tequilapaf
33. JUGERS2
34. Land_of_fire
35. Lord Zeus
36. Chill
37. Redtechs
38. b0nker
39. Cao Mengde
40. K. Sneaky
41. Your Mother
42. Don
43. Opi
44. TheKeeper
45. Trystane Jr
46. Soviet Elvir
47. Phoenix
48. Dizabo
49. MajestyZ
50. AdorableChrome
51. Croat
52. Labienus
53. Critical
54. Cpt.Magic
55. Guard
56. Skittzophrenic
57. K_Himmelreich
58. Unleashed
59.
60


It was a time that this happen.

Reason : AW has become unplayable.

The game is under 10% potential, because it got abandoned and has nothing new or good. Html version still looks very ugly, even if we got used to it.
Competitive scene died. Proof for that is my friend eagle won east tour. D
So many players quit or stopped playing this game.
Because no upgrades, Bhutan server, bugs (so, so many bugs).

Who can explain why this game, which most of us still love and think it has a lot of potential, turns into this.

Graphic, server, and motivation are on such a low level for 2017.

We (every player who signs here, he have to post and apply to join in strike group) demand improvements, and we demand them soon.

The current state is not acceptable for us.
So we will not play this game again until all our wishes are met.

List of our wishes :

1.Fix server so we can play like humans.
2.Release map editor already.
Admins promised that gonna be done 2 years ago. We can't wait anymore.
3.Demote inactive and useless mods.
4.Implement two new strategies. Even if they suck, we just need something new. We can make a topic with suggestions for new strats.
5.Fix codes. It is so easy to exploit some of bugs.

Everyone who supports this, post here to join group of strikers.
Only thing you have to do is not to play games. Chat in game, insulting other players while they play is allowed. Forum posting is fine too.

But if you play even a single turn since strike is on, you will become betrayer, an admin spy, and someone who is happy with currently state.

Players which also stopped to play because of some of those reasons are welcome to join too.



Betrayers / Amok's best friends list :

1. Kappa1917
2. Waffel
3. Tirpitz406
4. War/ Kayser Soze
5. sswoffels
6. Galerius
7. Ted
8. 4nic
9.
10. White Army
11. BobTheBuilder420
12. Cold Case
13.
13.10.2017 - 11:21
Geschreven door Permamuted, 13.10.2017 at 10:59

Yea on the points.

1. We need a mapmaker obviously.

2. We need a new main competitive map. 1 that is equal to or surpasses eu+ in quality but offers different gameplay. That meta is stale af.

3. For new strategies wed need new units added to the default. The current units have been innovated upon to death. The only competitive strats that been suggested in the past 4 years with any potential is desus marine defence strat and cthulhus strat. And even those concepts are a bit out there. scorched earth and hold the line are both troll and have no competitive potential in the current meta.

The admins had a buildings idea which they never got around to. Fortifications which gave +1 defence to all units in a city. An income building which cost a lot initially but more than paid for itself over time. A reinforcement depot. That idea alone would reinvigorate the current meta.

4. bug fixes galore and server stability.

5. mechanics changes to both the rolls and tb system which the community can agree upon.

Then voila atwar can enter a new golden era better than any that have come before. Sun has already demonstrated his ability to attract players in droves. If we could accomplish this much i believe we could retain players.

Agree, but the most important thing at this moment is making black pickable again!

D
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Geschreven door Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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13.10.2017 - 12:34
Geschreven door Permamuted, 13.10.2017 at 10:59

Yea on the points.

1. We need a mapmaker obviously.

2. We need a new main competitive map. 1 that is equal to or surpasses eu+ in quality but offers different gameplay. That meta is stale af.

3. For new strategies wed need new units added to the default. The current units have been innovated upon to death. The only competitive strats that been suggested in the past 4 years with any potential is desus marine defence strat and cthulhus strat. And even those concepts are a bit out there. scorched earth and hold the line are both troll and have no competitive potential in the current meta.

The admins had a buildings idea which they never got around to. Fortifications which gave +1 defence to all units in a city. An income building which cost a lot initially but more than paid for itself over time. A reinforcement depot. That idea alone would reinvigorate the current meta.

4. bug fixes galore and server stability.

5. mechanics changes to both the rolls and tb system which the community can agree upon.

Then voila atwar can enter a new golden era better than any that have come before. Sun has already demonstrated his ability to attract players in droves. If we could accomplish this much i believe we could retain players.

Eu+ 1968 best comp map.
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13.10.2017 - 16:49
Geschreven door Amok, 10.10.2017 at 16:23

Geschreven door Nations, 10.10.2017 at 16:04

Breaking strike is such an immature and weak behavior,tells a lot about your character in real life.Sorry not sorry.

Oh no, no one's breaking the strike, I just suggested you stop behaving like babies, throwing toys out of the pram. Continue all you want *brings the tear gas canisters*

its hard to perform justice i know...
i think i spent + 10000hour on this game to be banned for such shit reason
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14.10.2017 - 07:58
I am supporting you guys by my post reply

But I am not striker, I will keep playing
I wish more players and more fights
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14.10.2017 - 08:50
Geschreven door john9872564, 14.10.2017 at 07:58

I am supporting you guys by my post reply

But I am not striker, I will keep playing
I wish more players and more fights

You are against the revolution and will be sent to a gulag
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Laden...
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14.10.2017 - 15:24
Of course in
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TJM !!!
Laden...
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14.10.2017 - 17:40
So much silence...

you sure it's still a good idea?
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14.10.2017 - 17:50
HELL YEAH THIS IS WHAT I DO BEST
COUNT ME IN WE NEED TO GET THIS GAME SLICK AND SMOOTH
Amok and Ivan did a fine job on this game but need to get on top of things, this game has true potential and whether or not they like it, its their responsibility to maintain this game and the well being of its community
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16.10.2017 - 06:09
Geschreven door Permamuted, 13.10.2017 at 10:59

2. We need a new main competitive map. 1 that is equal to or surpasses eu+ in quality but offers different gameplay. That meta is stale af.

3. For new strategies wed need new units added to the default. The current units have been innovated upon to death. The only competitive strats that been suggested in the past 4 years with any potential is desus marine defence strat and cthulhus strat. And even those concepts are a bit out there. scorched earth and hold the line are both troll and have no competitive potential in the current meta.

Can you offer a bit of inspiration here?
There was a point at which all enigma members became map makers (sadly it lasted only for a week or so) and we were trying to create a competitive map, however no matter how hard we tried we could only come up with turk-ukraine scenarios and uk-germ scenarios, which are all equally boring since they're just the same playstyle with different expansions.

What other variables do you think I could change apart from the number of starting reinfs, number of ports and how accessible income is?
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16.10.2017 - 06:20
Geschreven door LukeTan, 16.10.2017 at 06:09


Can you offer a bit of inspiration here?
There was a point at which all enigma members became map makers (sadly it lasted only for a week or so) and we were trying to create a competitive map, however no matter how hard we tried we could only come up with turk-ukraine scenarios and uk-germ scenarios, which are all equally boring since they're just the same playstyle with different expansions.

What other variables do you think I could change apart from the number of starting reinfs, number of ports and how accessible income is?


This was a concept i had in mind but ofc no functional map editor to complete it. I was unable to get silverlight to work for me.



But it wouldve been a difficult task anyway. I believe i could do the balancing part no problem. Its getting the aesthetics and the layout right thats the hard part.
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16.10.2017 - 06:27
Laochra you just need a map editor...i think that the generic world map has a lot of fun....try to play south america,middle east,asia,medditerenian etc.
When you fill you have played those maps with all countries all strats and all amount of money then yes you need a different map but i dont think admins will make this one....is up to comunity and there are many scenarios that are balanced so maybe go for one of aetius maps
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16.10.2017 - 09:48
Geschreven door JUGERS2, 16.10.2017 at 06:27

Laochra you just need a map editor...i think that the generic world map has a lot of fun....try to play south america,middle east,asia,medditerenian etc.
When you fill you have played those maps with all countries all strats and all amount of money then yes you need a different map but i dont think admins will make this one....is up to comunity and there are many scenarios that are balanced so maybe go for one of aetius maps


Such arrogance. a r9 telling a r12 to go try other areas of the world map. What a revolutionary idea.

Theres a reason eu+ remains the competitive standard and no its not because ppl are unwilling to change. We just have no better map.

south america - large landmass, imp and blitz main strats. games tend to be long and little room for creativity.
mid east - imp and gw are primary strats. fun but lack of strat and expansion diversity means it gets old quickly.
east asia - Too few viable picks
meditteranean - imp/blitz fest again due to low income and so much water.

Compare this with eu+ - almost all strats are competitively viable. Games are usually quick. to quote vril.

The diversity of regions enriches the game play on the EU+ map. Make sure you include the following regions:

- High income, High reinforcements, medium/high density (Germany, France, UK, Rus. Central)
- High income, low reinforcements, low/medium density (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland)
- Medium income, low/medium reinforcements, low density (Russia... )
- Medium income, High reinforcements, medium density (Spain, Italy, Ukraine)
- Low/medium income, medium reinforcements, medium/high density (Greece, Poland, Serbia, Romania, Belarus, Austria)
- Low income, high reinforcements, high density (Turkey)
- Low income, low/medium reinforcements, high density (aka Balkan countries/ former yugoslavia or capital only countries)
- Low income, low/medium reinforcements, periphereal (Iceland, Portugal, Ireland, Azerbajan...)

Find me 1 other map that achieves this and includes this range of diversity.

It is possible to create another map of this level for 10k that differs from the pd centric gameplay of west eu. You could also develope a map for teamgames on 15k.

As for the scenarios pffft. Big credit to Aetius with WW1. 1 of the few scenarios i have encountered with competitive potential. A lot of thought and effort has been put into it in regards balance and realism. Its impressive. My only gripe is its such a time commitment. If you sit down to play a ww1 then be prepared to go the full 5 hours. Also im not a fan of the kind of mass stacking autism that occurs lategame. But thats personal taste.
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16.10.2017 - 09:56
Geschreven door Permamuted, 16.10.2017 at 09:48

Geschreven door JUGERS2, 16.10.2017 at 06:27

Laochra you just need a map editor...i think that the generic world map has a lot of fun....try to play south america,middle east,asia,medditerenian etc.
When you fill you have played those maps with all countries all strats and all amount of money then yes you need a different map but i dont think admins will make this one....is up to comunity and there are many scenarios that are balanced so maybe go for one of aetius maps


Such arrogance. a r9 telling a r12 to go try other areas of the world map. What a revolutionary idea.

Theres a reason eu+ remains the competitive standard and no its not because ppl are unwilling to change. We just have no better map.

south america - large landmass, imp and blitz main strats. games tend to be long and little room for creativity.
mid east - imp and gw are primary strats. fun but lack of strat and expansion diversity means it gets old quickly.
east asia - Too few viable picks
meditteranean - imp/blitz fest again due to low income and so much water.

Compare this with eu+ - almost all strats are competitively viable. Games are usually quick. to quote vril.

The diversity of regions enriches the game play on the EU+ map. Make sure you include the following regions:

- High income, High reinforcements, medium/high density (Germany, France, UK, Rus. Central)
- High income, low reinforcements, low/medium density (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland)
- Medium income, low/medium reinforcements, low density (Russia... )
- Medium income, High reinforcements, medium density (Spain, Italy, Ukraine)
- Low/medium income, medium reinforcements, medium/high density (Greece, Poland, Serbia, Romania, Belarus, Austria)
- Low income, high reinforcements, high density (Turkey)
- Low income, low/medium reinforcements, high density (aka Balkan countries/ former yugoslavia or capital only countries)
- Low income, low/medium reinforcements, periphereal (Iceland, Portugal, Ireland, Azerbajan...)

Find me 1 other map that achieves this and includes this range of diversity.

It is possible to create another map of this level for 10k that differs from the pd centric gameplay of west eu. You could also develope a map for teamgames on 15k.

As for the scenarios pffft. Big credit to Aetius with WW1. 1 of the few scenarios i have encountered with competitive potential. A lot of thought and effort has been put into it in regards balance and realism. Its impressive. My only gripe is its such a time commitment. If you sit down to play a ww1 then be prepared to go the full 5 hours. Also im not a fan of the kind of mass stacking autism that occurs lategame. But thats personal taste.

Aetius's map is to linear to be competitive, it's the same issue I run into when I try to make a competitive map. It's very hard to balance diversity with balance, while keeping the map entertaining but fair. If you think you can balance a map correctly pm me and maybe we can collaborate, you find the map, and balance it's sections and I'll draw it up. My aesthetics appeal is top notch on aw, my game of thrones is par none. Let me know.
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16.10.2017 - 10:11
Geschreven door Helly, 16.10.2017 at 09:56

Aetius's map is to linear to be competitive, it's the same issue I run into when I try to make a competitive map. It's very hard to balance diversity with balance, while keeping the map entertaining but fair. If you think you can balance a map correctly pm me and maybe we can collaborate, you find the map, and balance it's sections and I'll draw it up. My aesthetics appeal is top notch on aw, my game of thrones is par none. Let me know.


ty but for now im going to watch and see what happens with all this ddosing stuff and the potential of a new coder. Not sure if its worth going to such an effort with all the issues aw has atm. But yea i think i can do it, especially with community assistance.
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16.10.2017 - 12:53
Geschreven door Permamuted, 16.10.2017 at 09:48

Geschreven door JUGERS2, 16.10.2017 at 06:27

Laochra you just need a map editor...i think that the generic world map has a lot of fun....try to play south america,middle east,asia,medditerenian etc.
When you fill you have played those maps with all countries all strats and all amount of money then yes you need a different map but i dont think admins will make this one....is up to comunity and there are many scenarios that are balanced so maybe go for one of aetius maps


Such arrogance. a r9 telling a r12 to go try other areas of the world map. What a revolutionary idea.

Theres a reason eu+ remains the competitive standard and no its not because ppl are unwilling to change. We just have no better map.

south america - large landmass, imp and blitz main strats. games tend to be long and little room for creativity.
mid east - imp and gw are primary strats. fun but lack of strat and expansion diversity means it gets old quickly.
east asia - Too few viable picks
meditteranean - imp/blitz fest again due to low income and so much water.

Compare this with eu+ - almost all strats are competitively viable. Games are usually quick. to quote vril.

The diversity of regions enriches the game play on the EU+ map. Make sure you include the following regions:

- High income, High reinforcements, medium/high density (Germany, France, UK, Rus. Central)
- High income, low reinforcements, low/medium density (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland)
- Medium income, low/medium reinforcements, low density (Russia... )
- Medium income, High reinforcements, medium density (Spain, Italy, Ukraine)
- Low/medium income, medium reinforcements, medium/high density (Greece, Poland, Serbia, Romania, Belarus, Austria)
- Low income, high reinforcements, high density (Turkey)
- Low income, low/medium reinforcements, high density (aka Balkan countries/ former yugoslavia or capital only countries)
- Low income, low/medium reinforcements, periphereal (Iceland, Portugal, Ireland, Azerbajan...)

Find me 1 other map that achieves this and includes this range of diversity.

It is possible to create another map of this level for 10k that differs from the pd centric gameplay of west eu. You could also develope a map for teamgames on 15k.

As for the scenarios pffft. Big credit to Aetius with WW1. 1 of the few scenarios i have encountered with competitive potential. A lot of thought and effort has been put into it in regards balance and realism. Its impressive. My only gripe is its such a time commitment. If you sit down to play a ww1 then be prepared to go the full 5 hours. Also im not a fan of the kind of mass stacking autism that occurs lategame. But thats personal taste.

Didnt want to offend you i know who you are but i am not a 6 month r9 player...i find fun is asia south america pacific and oceania...they arent balance like eu+ but they are different and i think this is what community needs.
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17.10.2017 - 07:41
 Ivan (Administrator)
Quote:

1.Fix server so we can play like humans.
2.Release map editor already.
Admins promised that gonna be done 2 years ago. We can't wait anymore.
3.Demote inactive and useless mods.
4.Implement two new strategies. Even if they suck, we just need something new. We can make a topic with suggestions for new strats.
5.Fix codes. It is so easy to exploit some of bugs.

1. Got extra DDoS protection now, should help against the outages. Though large scale and prolonged DDoS is no joke, whoever is doing it is one dedicated asshole.
2. We've advertised for programmers, interviewing 2 candidates in a few days. Since we continuously fail to find the time to do do it ourselves, perhaps this is the only way.
3. This is an odd one, compared to the seriousness of other problems. Why would it bother you so much? I see inactive mods retaining their status as a way to honour their contributions and allow them to come back if they feel like.
4. OK.
5. See #2
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Laden...
17.10.2017 - 07:49
 Sascha (Mod)
Geschreven door Ivan, 17.10.2017 at 07:41

Quote:

1.Fix server so we can play like humans.
2.Release map editor already.
Admins promised that gonna be done 2 years ago. We can't wait anymore.
3.Demote inactive and useless mods.
4.Implement two new strategies. Even if they suck, we just need something new. We can make a topic with suggestions for new strats.
5.Fix codes. It is so easy to exploit some of bugs.

1. Got extra DDoS protection now, should help against the outages. Though large scale and prolonged DDoS is no joke, whoever is doing it is one dedicated asshole.
2. We've advertised for programmers, interviewing 2 candidates in a few day. Since we continuously fail to find the time to do do it ourselves, perhaps this is the only way.
3. This is an odd one, compared to the seriousness of other problems. Why would it bother you so much? I see inactive mods retaining their status as a way to honour their contributions and allow them to come back if they feel like.
4. OK.
5. See #2

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17.10.2017 - 09:08
Kogi
Account verwijderd
Then remove me from this strike
Laden...
Laden...
17.10.2017 - 09:33
Geschreven door Ivan, 17.10.2017 at 07:41

Quote:

1.Fix server so we can play like humans.
2.Release map editor already.
Admins promised that gonna be done 2 years ago. We can't wait anymore.
3.Demote inactive and useless mods.
4.Implement two new strategies. Even if they suck, we just need something new. We can make a topic with suggestions for new strats.
5.Fix codes. It is so easy to exploit some of bugs.

1. Got extra DDoS protection now, should help against the outages. Though large scale and prolonged DDoS is no joke, whoever is doing it is one dedicated asshole.
2. We've advertised for programmers, interviewing 2 candidates in a few day. Since we continuously fail to find the time to do do it ourselves, perhaps this is the only way.
3. This is an odd one, compared to the seriousness of other problems. Why would it bother you so much? I see inactive mods retaining their status as a way to honour their contributions and allow them to come back if they feel like.
4. OK.
5. See #2

Can we have a timeline when those things will be ready? Also we dont mind having mods for honour but we want players being mods because they can actually moderate AW and be active atleast 1 24/7 and actually force the law with proper warnings and always to ban someone using ss of what he done and quote of the rule he broke.
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17.10.2017 - 09:51
Geschreven door Ivan, 17.10.2017 at 07:41

-snip!-


At least DDoS has stopped, remove me from strike once we at least have a name and/or guarantee that this person will be working on atwar.
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17.10.2017 - 10:01
Geschreven door LukeTan, 17.10.2017 at 09:51

-snip!-

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17.10.2017 - 10:48
 4nic
This list isn't updated...all broke strike
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Laden...
Laden...
17.10.2017 - 12:08
Stop throwing your toys out of your prams
Laden...
Laden...
17.10.2017 - 12:10
Alright.

Strike is still on, but light version.

Last cw 7 days ago...

IF admins fix what they have promised, I will play again.

Rest feel free to play if u want.
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17.10.2017 - 12:11
Geschreven door Mauzer Panteri, 17.10.2017 at 12:10

Alright.

Strike is still on, but light version.

Last cw 7 days ago...

IF admins fix what they have promised, I will play again.

Don't play again
Laden...
Laden...
17.10.2017 - 12:18
Geschreven door Mauzer Panteri, 17.10.2017 at 12:10

Alright.

Strike is still on, but light version.

Last cw 7 days ago...

IF admins fix what they have promised, I will play again.


the strikes pointless. play if you want. While the game was being ddos;d there was no way to play anyway. But now its fine.
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17.10.2017 - 12:25
Geschreven door Permamuted, 17.10.2017 at 12:18

Geschreven door Mauzer Panteri, 17.10.2017 at 12:10

Alright.

Strike is still on, but light version.

Last cw 7 days ago...

IF admins fix what they have promised, I will play again.


the strikes pointless. play if you want. While the game was being ddos;d there was no way to play anyway. But now its fine.

You're number 11
Laden...
Laden...
17.10.2017 - 12:26
Geschreven door Permamuted, 17.10.2017 at 12:18

the strikes pointless. play if you want. While the game was being ddos;d there was no way to play anyway. But now its fine.


N pointless.
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17.10.2017 - 12:35
Geschreven door Mauzer Panteri, 17.10.2017 at 12:26

Geschreven door Permamuted, 17.10.2017 at 12:18

the strikes pointless. play if you want. While the game was being ddos;d there was no way to play anyway. But now its fine.


N pointless.


how is it not pointless.... name 1 thing it achieved.
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17.10.2017 - 12:39
Thing 1 : Ivan was online.
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