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Geplaatst door Zone, 11.06.2015 - 15:15
Tank Cost is now 90.

Community wasn't informed or asked before this change was done

Let's give the opinion of the community on this.

Poll

What do you think about this change to RA

Should stay like that
53
Should go back to previous cost
32

Alle stemmen: 76
13.06.2015 - 13:16
@RA nerfers:

1vs1 duel on every part of the default map with 5k funds. You go RA. You pick first. Prove it is op.
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13.06.2015 - 13:41
Geschreven door clovis1122, 13.06.2015 at 13:16

@RA nerfers:

1vs1 duel on every part of the default map with 5k funds. You go RA. You pick first. Prove it is op.

What are you talking about? ...people played RA, myself included in Europe and other 5k matches even when tanks costed 110.

On other hand ...look who is a hypocrite now, limiting a strategy discussion and examination to a certain fund.

Thirdly what i have to say is ...look at this topic:

• Zone making a topic asking if RA is too strong now since tanks cost 90
• Goblin saying that it might have been boosted two times by accident and in that case RA defense is too high compared to already boosted attacking capabilities
• Acquiesce after testing it a bit ...claims RA is too strong
• Lao also believing it might have been boosted two times by accident
• Tunder giving his opinion that RA on one hand is too strong outside Europe map because of this boosts

Then you have you and others coming and responding to perfectly normal posts of players above by insulting, mocking, not giving any opinions and asking out of mockery that it be tested on specific funds ...when in fact you are always proud of yourself of "thinkin out of the europe limits and 10k 3v3 games"

Btw. lately many people told me in private messages: " lol i started playing RA its so FUCKING OP!!!! " or "i gota start playing RA tanks cost 90 !!!! "
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13.06.2015 - 13:47
Geschreven door Goblin, 13.06.2015 at 13:41

Geschreven door clovis1122, 13.06.2015 at 13:16

@RA nerfers:

1vs1 duel on every part of the default map with 5k funds. You go RA. You pick first. Prove it is op.

What are you talking about? ...people played RA, myself included in Europe and other 5k matches even when tanks costed 110.

On other hand ...look who is a hypocrite now, limiting a strategy discussion and examination to a certain fund.

Thirdly what i have to say is ...look at this topic:

• Zone making a topic asking if RA is too strong now since tanks cost 90
• Goblin saying that it might have been boosted two times by accident and in that case RA defense is too high compared to already boosted attacking capabilities
• Acquiesce after testing it a bit ...claims RA is too strong
• Lao also believing it might have been boosted two times by accident
• Tunder giving his opinion that RA on one hand is too strong outside Europe map because of this boosts

Then you have you and others coming and responding to perfectly normal posts of players above by insulting, mocking, not giving any opinions and asking out of mockery that it be tested on specific funds ...when in fact you are always proud of yourself of "thinkin out of the europe limits and 10k 3v3 games"

Btw. lately many people told me in private messages: " lol i started playing RA its so FUCKING OP!!!! " or "i gota start playing RA tanks cost 90 !!!! "


"[...] By accident".



This screenshot was posted here, right when the changes were made: http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=18257&topicsearch=&page=7

Hopefully you guys can stop lying now. It was not an accident.

Also hopefully you have no problems dueling me. If Tunder is right, lets see how does RA works out of his niche
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13.06.2015 - 13:50


Less talk more duel RA players pls.
Laden...
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13.06.2015 - 14:01
Geschreven door clovis1122, 13.06.2015 at 13:47

"[...] By accident".

Learn how to read ...Lao said it, i said it ...after RA tanks got boosted, there was a boost for tanks in all strategies after that.

Btw. you can really stop insulting me ...i never denied a duel to anyone. On the contrary ...you are like a little bitch when i challenge you to my duels. And lets not mention you will pick an OP country every time given the opportunity on other maps.

Don't act like a big shot pro with me ...
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13.06.2015 - 14:13
Geschreven door Goblin, 13.06.2015 at 13:01

Bla made a rage post ...go fuck yourself GoW. First you come and attack people who discuss a two time boost of RA, then you claim you didn't ...and insult me again in the process.

Its like some sick AW syndrome when players think that by saying "adapt" "stop crying" etc. about things they themselves couldn't adapt and they are no better then players who discuss and suggest certain things ... is giving them a sense of superiority.

first of all i did not attack you, you attacked me. secondly i was just saying this is a fucking strategy game not a rl issue, when they nerfed blitz did you see me crying? when they did other shit do you see me whimpering? the answer is no and why?
since i adapt to change. reminding you that this is just a game and my words were not meant to be hurtful to anyone personally i hope you understand my point.
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13.06.2015 - 14:23
Geschreven door 1GodofWar1, 13.06.2015 at 14:13

Geschreven door Goblin, 13.06.2015 at 13:01

Bla made a rage post ...go fuck yourself GoW. First you come and attack people who discuss a two time boost of RA, then you claim you didn't ...and insult me again in the process.

Its like some sick AW syndrome when players think that by saying "adapt" "stop crying" etc. about things they themselves couldn't adapt and they are no better then players who discuss and suggest certain things ... is giving them a sense of superiority.

first of all i did not attack you, you attacked me. secondly i was just saying this is a fucking strategy game not a rl issue, when they nerfed blitz did you see me crying? when they did other shit do you see me whimpering? the answer is no and why?
since i adapt to change. reminding you that this is just a game and my words were not meant to be hurtful to anyone personally i hope you understand my point.

as well as i mentioned that the change has been well over 2 months ago and only now since some players realized it there is a discussion about it.
also my opinion is that b4 the change ra was not a viable pick but now it is.so it makes sense and if you play right vs ra you can win just as much as you can win vs any other strategy thats what i meant when i said adapt.
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13.06.2015 - 14:25
Geschreven door 1GodofWar1, 13.06.2015 at 12:49

learn to adapt instead of crying your little hearts out.


kk sorry ill do better next time

can someone make an ra guide?
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13.06.2015 - 14:26
Geschreven door Goblin, 13.06.2015 at 14:01

Learn how to read ...Lao said it, i said it ...after RA tanks got boosted, there was a boost for tanks in all strategies after that.


Oh nice now I am supposed to read minds.

You say RA got boosted by accident, I say it was not an accident.

You tell me "Learn how to read" and now say that Tanks got boosted in all strategies, well I just checked my none tanks and they doesn't have any variation.

I'll keep my word and avoid commenting about the duel we had in forums.
Laden...
Laden...
13.06.2015 - 14:32
Geschreven door Permamuted, 13.06.2015 at 14:25

Geschreven door 1GodofWar1, 13.06.2015 at 12:49

learn to adapt instead of crying your little hearts out.


kk sorry ill do better next time

can someone make an ra guide?

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Laden...
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13.06.2015 - 14:49
LET THE RA AGE BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!



Quoting Soldier:

"Tanks! More tanks! SPAM MORE TANKS!!!"
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13.06.2015 - 15:34
Adapt does not mean fighting against bad odds. No player deserves to have an advantage over another ...specially not huge ones.

Adapting to certain new situations or changes that don't give an advantage to any player is real adapting.

You are mixing things up ...and speak this way not because you are better then us and can adapt to OP shit, but because you want to pull out your cocks on this kind of perfectly normal topics where strategies are discussed.

Btw. why didn't anyone "adapt" to playing a shitty RA back before the boost? Why didn't anyone adapt to playing shitty blitz back when it was -2? Why didn't most people adapt to playing IF when transports had shitty range?

heh ...but you are sure as hell adapting to playing strategies when they get boosted into becoming very much viable and possibly OP.

STRONG! ADAPTABLE!
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13.06.2015 - 16:16
Geschreven door Goblin, 13.06.2015 at 15:34

Btw. why didn't anyone "adapt" to playing a shitty RA back before the boost? Why didn't anyone adapt to playing shitty blitz back when it was -2? Why didn't most people adapt to playing IF when transports had shitty range?

Why did no one adapt to none strategy!? That poor underrated strategy with no strength??

BUFF NONE STRATEGY!!
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13.06.2015 - 16:21
Geschreven door Goblin, 13.06.2015 at 15:34

Why didn't anyone adapt to playing shitty blitz back when it was -2?


Don't generalize... many players did adapt.
Laden...
Laden...
14.06.2015 - 05:07
Geschreven door clovis1122, 13.06.2015 at 16:21

Don't generalize... many players did adapt.

Don't get your inflated ego hurt ...there were players who played it, but no one looked at it as highly viable option, specially not in 3v3 games.

And i have every right to generalize ...that comment is ridiculous. If i want to say back when it was -2, there were only low amount of players who played it, compared to everyone playing it once the realization came that you can play it with basically any country then i have spoken the truth.

Adapt in your dictionary means ...playing an OP strategy - country combo, usually you picking it as a counter to your opponents pick (otherwise your opponent could easily adapt to it so you can't pick it first) then claiming the other player should have struggled against an unfair position fighting your advantage.
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Laden...
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14.06.2015 - 08:38
The idea was to make those strategies viable and popular, and now they are so. This is a fact.

/End
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14.06.2015 - 11:34
Geschreven door clovis1122, 14.06.2015 at 08:38

The idea was to make those strategies viable and popular, and now they are so. This is a fact.

/End

RA was a viable strategy in many situations, more so then some other strategies.

Wait btw. You again think you said something smart ..when in reality your post is ridiculous.

Should we make LB viable for europe 3v3 becaus of players complaining its not playable in 3v3 ?

Thats what happenrd with RA ...strategy viable and strong in hundreds of other situations got boosted to be playable on eu 10k.

Its absurd ...then when we notice how now RA is becoming something people wisper in pm about lol playing its so OP huehue tanks so cheap ...while we try and discuss it and test it you have the nerves to call us criers while admiting to me in pms you have no idea if its too strong!!!!!!!!!!
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Laden...
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14.06.2015 - 11:45
I BLAME SOLDIER AND HIS RETARDED SENTENCE 'BUILD MORE TANKS'

sorry for caps
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Laden...
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14.06.2015 - 11:59
After crunching numbers for thirty minutes, I change my mind. All considered, I would support a slight nerf to RA, to the extent of another +10 cost to militia and -1 tank defense. Since tanks are still cheap, tank-spamming (which, by the way, is the point of playing RA) is still possible, but -1 defense can cripple RA gameplay in more ways than one and $50 militia means that players now need to use militia in a more offensive role, thereby undermining RA city defense.
Laden...
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14.06.2015 - 13:34
90 for op tank, and 80 for full noob inf, stupid.
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http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=14714&topicsearch=&page=
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14.06.2015 - 13:45
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Geschreven door International, 14.06.2015 at 11:59

After crunching numbers for thirty minutes, I change my mind.


Kudos for changing your mind but if you just tried playing a couple games using RA you wouldn't have to do math for 30 minutes. You'd also know that your suggestions don't really make sense. No one will ever use militia offensively with RA because they have negligible range. As for the -1 def on tanks, sounds a little too much like blitz to my ear. Just make tanks fairly expensive again. That way tank spamming is possible only once you've built the economy for it (same as marines for MoS, bombers for SM, or any other high cost strategy).
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14.06.2015 - 13:51
Geschreven door clovis1122, 13.06.2015 at 13:50



Less talk more duel RA players pls.


43 votes for not change RA... 25 votes for change it. And no one had accepted my duel request yet.

Hopefully no crazy man is going to push this type of change again
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14.06.2015 - 13:51
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Geschreven door Croat, 14.06.2015 at 11:45

I BLAME SOLDIER AND HIS RETARDED SENTENCE 'BUILD MORE TANKS'

sorry for caps

90 cost tanks 80cost inf and only 5 defence for inf, yeah much op.
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14.06.2015 - 16:08
Geschreven door Guest, 14.06.2015 at 13:51


90 cost tanks 80cost inf and only 5 defence for inf, yeah much op.

im kidding bro, i dont care
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15.06.2015 - 07:43
Geschreven door Goblin, 15.06.2015 at 02:02

Geschreven door clovis1122, 14.06.2015 at 13:51

43 votes for not change RA... 25 votes for change it.



Majority might be wrong but facts are not:

Geschreven door clovis1122, 14.06.2015 at 13:51

And no one had accepted my duel request yet.


Geschreven door clovis1122, 13.06.2015 at 14:26

You say RA got boosted by accident, I say it was not an accident.

You tell me "Learn how to read" and now say that Tanks got boosted in all strategies, well I just checked my none tanks and they doesn't have any variation.


And of course, how can we forget:



And you guys trying to just nerf RA without adding anything constructive to it, in other words, to return to the old situation and make it less viable is nothing but a complain akka "Cry thread". Goes against this fact:

Geschreven door clovis1122, 14.06.2015 at 08:38

The idea was to make those strategies viable and popular, and now they are so. This is a fact.


Now some players had actually suggested other good changes that, in case RA is proved to be OP, it might be something to be taken into consideration. Too bad you aren't part of this list
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15.06.2015 - 07:53
Geschreven door clovis1122, 15.06.2015 at 07:43


Return the cost to 100 like the original Cthulhu's idea was ...another -10 came from boosting tanks in general for other strategies.
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15.06.2015 - 08:22
Geschreven door Goblin, 15.06.2015 at 07:53

Geschreven door clovis1122, 15.06.2015 at 07:43


Return the cost to 100 like the original idea Cthulhu's idea was ...another -10 came from boosting tanks in general for other strategies.


Tanks already had 100 cost before the strategy discussion thread was made. Yet people still considered it as "Weak". You should blame those who now want RA to be nerfed because they were the ones who supported and pushed the change without researching a conclusion.
Laden...
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15.06.2015 - 08:34
Geschreven door clovis1122, 15.06.2015 at 08:22

Tanks already had 100 cost before the strategy discussion thread was made. Yet people still considered it as "Weak". You should blame those who now want RA to be nerfed because they were the ones who supported and pushed the change without researching a conclusion.

You said nothing constructive so far in this thread concerning the topic...
Your posts only, as always are based on criticism of other players with no basis or arguments to actually support the criticism.

Prove people considered it weak, don't generalize <------------ THATS HOW YOU ROLL

Why should i blame anyone btw. ...that's your job in this game.

Bye.
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15.06.2015 - 11:54
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Geschreven door Mauzer Panteri, 14.06.2015 at 13:34

90 for op tank, and 80 for full noob inf, stupid.

Laden...
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15.06.2015 - 12:15
There should be a special upgrade that costs 100,000 sp that makes tanks $1. The way I see it then everyone would be happy.
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