Nerf GW a little bit

Geschreven door Leo, 14.02.2017 at 14:41

Geschreven door Rock Lee, 14.02.2017 at 14:39

Geschreven door Leo, 14.02.2017 at 14:31

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I still don't understand how is that relevant to the conversation at all. Even if it's a suicide strat, RA players still had/have to be careful about their stacks because everyone keeps trying to destroy them. What were even the old stats of RA/TG? My point since the beginning was to kill much of it's defensive aspect and buff it's attack, so at least it's not as useless as it currently is.

I have no clue about what were the old stats (i think 10-3 and boosted range), too much time has passed, but Laochra describes the RA that you had as op strategy so i guess it has been changed several times hence.

about what it should be - i agree with you, if it has to be nerfed we should at least find use to it, if not at 3v3s or duels at least the the open games (world map, asia and etc).

also sorry for spamming long useless messages, i have good attentions though, trying to figure what happened and find ideas to fix.

Geschreven door Rock Lee, 14.02.2017 at 14:39

Geschreven door Leo, 14.02.2017 at 14:31

Tbh the only times i'd see RA played is poland, and maybe ukraine. You're probably talking about old times which have changed a lot, but RA serves as a suicide strat mainly in europe, even back when it was still buffed. I personally think it's irrelevant in scenarios because they can always alter the statistics however they want, but it still makes sense though. How is it that the only outright attacking strat doesn't even buff attack?

RA was very effective in scenarios because it helps to destroy big stacks, for example when you play soviet in WWII you barely attack your enemy, so when your enemy only protects itself you can do whatever you want, in default map it was diffrent, tank players had to divide and hide their forces in order to not get turnblocked, they always had to recapture their lands because militias were not enough to protect cities, so they could'nt send all they had against their enemy, at the time the most efficient counter to tanks that i remember is SM Volga - you could attack them whenver they were.

I'm not sure that's the reason, but the popular strategy (PD) suffered many nerfs (range, city defence bonuse, turnblocks removed), i assume that it's what brought the nerfs to the rest of the strategies (RA GC LB), let's hope they will manage to fix it.

>ww2 russia
>RA

Lol you are out of your mind, RA has always been a shit strat in scenarios, specially in ww2 because it burns cash like mad. I hope RA remains nerfed.

Geschreven door Tundy, 14.02.2017 at 15:54

>ww2 russia
>RA

Lol you are out of your mind, RA has always been a shit strat in scenarios, specially in ww2 because it burns cash like mad. I hope RA remains nerfed.

RA/SM against Russia and UK, sorry if i was'snt clrear

Geschreven door Permamuted, 14.02.2017 at 13:29

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Lao, i dont understand why you aren't in charge of balancing the strategies. The mob always speaks from a position of emotion and ignorance. Atwar needs gatekeepers that regulate the quality of the meta-game and scenarios

Geschreven door Rock Lee, 14.02.2017 at 15:58

Geschreven door Tundy, 14.02.2017 at 15:54

>ww2 russia
>RA

Lol you are out of your mind, RA has always been a shit strat in scenarios, specially in ww2 because it burns cash like mad. I hope RA remains nerfed.

RA/SM against Russia and UK, sorry if i was'snt clrear

In that case i am sorry. But yes you are right, SM and RA are usable against Russia. But they weren't the optimal wepon agains't a PD opponent.

Geschreven door Tundy, 14.02.2017 at 16:06

they weren't the optimal wepon agains't a PD opponent.

It depends. before the manstein update i felt the safest with such strategy because it helped to cap moscow quickly and when even the russian managed to bring enough troops to moscow i could take all his lands in the urals and caucause and attack the middle east, so i could make sure he and britian would'nt recover and prepare for the us invasion, when the manstein update came out i had diffrent habits.

at the time i was NC addict (relax mate not with germany ) and xn0ize was pissed at me everytime he saw me playing it he slowly got me used to be play pd only in order to improve.

The thing with RA is that even though it currently sucks. Newbies will still use it because it is their best option. A rank 5's only choice is pd, imp, or ra. Now remember they dont have expandable or faster infantry so pd and imp sucks.

Nerfing RA to encourage other strat did practically nothing because it is still the best option for people with no infantry upgrade.

Geschreven door Permamuted, 14.02.2017 at 13:29

Youve no idea what you are talking about. All the players you named are largely inactive and only play cws or the odd game. They also dont give a shit, do you see their presense in any of these threads?

As for clovis, he has me on ignore and disregards my posts purely because theyre mine. And yet you are here calling me the childish one.

you've been treating him with a spiteful resentiment for years, yep, i'm calling you childish. also, most of the players i mentioned are more active than desu and chess were when they implemented their last meta changes

Geschreven door Tirpitz406, 14.02.2017 at 17:13

you've been treating him with a spiteful resentiment for years, yep, i'm calling you childish. also, most of the players i mentioned are more active than desu and chess were when they implemented their last meta changes

All i ever did was disagree with clovis and troll him a bit, in return not 2 days after i was made mod, a public thread was made trashing me and claiming i should be removed. Then began the spamming of the other mods and admins inboxes with lies and out of context screenshots trying to get me demoted. Clovis has created several public threads attempting to troll, bash or flame me and now hilariously he has me on ignore. And yet he still constantly namedrops me in his posts with misquotations and all other sorts of nonsense like with the newsletter. And here we have you coming to this thread and calling me spiteful and childish. And even if me and clovis could form a truce, do you not read his posts? Anyway this is offtopic and adds nothing to the discussion.

And again all the names you mentioned, none of them are here and in any of the other threads. Prom was the guy who popularised the new ds but he is fully inactive. We discussed it before he left after he wrecked clovis in a duel with ds ukraine. When i told witch doctor that only a handful care, i wasnt making stuff up.

If they change gw at all I will quit AW

Most fun strategy I have played so far. Would suck so much if it got nerfed...............Tfw militia is more powerful than military trained soldiers lel

Geschreven door Witch-Doctor, 14.02.2017 at 16:46

The thing with RA is that even though it currently sucks. Newbies will still use it because it is their best option. A rank 5's only choice is pd, imp, or ra. Now remember they dont have expandable or faster infantry so pd and imp sucks.

Nerfing RA to encourage other strat did practically nothing because it is still the best option for people with no infantry upgrade.

Imp is stil very viable without inf upgrade, I used it over ra as a low rank.

Geschreven door Xenosapien, 14.02.2017 at 23:08

Geschreven door Witch-Doctor, 14.02.2017 at 16:46

The thing with RA is that even though it currently sucks. Newbies will still use it because it is their best option. A rank 5's only choice is pd, imp, or ra. Now remember they dont have expandable or faster infantry so pd and imp sucks.

Nerfing RA to encourage other strat did practically nothing because it is still the best option for people with no infantry upgrade.

Imp is stil very viable without inf upgrade, I used it over ra as a low rank.

ok duel no upgrades? You go imp and I'll go RA.

Geschreven door Witch-Doctor, 14.02.2017 at 23:18

Geschreven door Xenosapien, 14.02.2017 at 23:08

Geschreven door Witch-Doctor, 14.02.2017 at 16:46

The thing with RA is that even though it currently sucks. Newbies will still use it because it is their best option. A rank 5's only choice is pd, imp, or ra. Now remember they dont have expandable or faster infantry so pd and imp sucks.

Nerfing RA to encourage other strat did practically nothing because it is still the best option for people with no infantry upgrade.

Imp is stil very viable without inf upgrade, I used it over ra as a low rank.

ok duel no upgrades? You go imp and I'll go RA.

no upgrades sucks, you don't even get the basic low cost upgrades such as naval capacity

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Geschreven door Xenosapien, 14.02.2017 at 23:34

Imp is stil very viable without inf upgrade, I used it over ra as a low rank.

ok duel no upgrades? You go imp and I'll go RA.

no upgrades sucks, you don't even get the basic low cost upgrades such as naval capacity

I would like to provide some information that may help to clarify such topic: In most low rank encounters where both sides are equally skilled; RA annihilates IMP and PD. Why? because a low rank doesn't have the upgrades or skills necessary to maximize the potential that IMP and PD provide. The theoretical scenario in which IMP has an advantage over RA is also non-existent in the low rank world, beginners play in settings in which RA rules supreme (50k games).

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Geschreven door Tundy, 15.02.2017 at 00:18

Geschreven door Xenosapien, 14.02.2017 at 23:34

Imp is stil very viable without inf upgrade, I used it over ra as a low rank.

ok duel no upgrades? You go imp and I'll go RA.

no upgrades sucks, you don't even get the basic low cost upgrades such as naval capacity

I would like to provide some information that may help to clarify such topic: In most low rank encounters where both sides are equally skilled; RA annihilates IMP and PD. Why? because a low rank doesn't have the upgrades or skills necessary to maximize the potential that IMP and PD provide. The theoretical scenario in which IMP has an advantage over RA is also non-existent in the low rank world, beginners play in settings in which RA rules supreme (50k games).

Well when I was beginner there were plenty 10 15k world games

Geschreven door Acquiesce, 14.02.2017 at 20:35

If they change gw at all I will quit AW

NERF GWWWW

Geschreven door Witch-Doctor, 14.02.2017 at 23:18

Geschreven door Xenosapien, 14.02.2017 at 23:08

Geschreven door Witch-Doctor, 14.02.2017 at 16:46

The thing with RA is that even though it currently sucks. Newbies will still use it because it is their best option. A rank 5's only choice is pd, imp, or ra. Now remember they dont have expandable or faster infantry so pd and imp sucks.

Nerfing RA to encourage other strat did practically nothing because it is still the best option for people with no infantry upgrade.

Imp is stil very viable without inf upgrade, I used it over ra as a low rank.

ok duel no upgrades? You go imp and I'll go RA.

I'll go MoS and you go RA. 50k funds anywhere.

The whole paradigm is wrong by the way. When I was low rank I bough MoS and it was pretty much all I played because I knew that the other people doesn't wall. If it was MoS vs the current RA I'd also do it, because the stealth are stronger.

But even nowadays if I had to do a no upgrades duel and assuming the funds were limited (so no MoS) I'd LB/DS over RA.

If it was all about the three starting strategies (RA, PD, NC) then RA is more versatile and stronger in-land I agree. But you'd still got places such as Asia where the majority of the important cities are in sea, and Africa where you... just... don't RA.

Geschreven door Witch-Doctor, 14.02.2017 at 23:18

Geschreven door Xenosapien, 14.02.2017 at 23:08

Geschreven door Witch-Doctor, 14.02.2017 at 16:46

The thing with RA is that even though it currently sucks. Newbies will still use it because it is their best option. A rank 5's only choice is pd, imp, or ra. Now remember they dont have expandable or faster infantry so pd and imp sucks.

Nerfing RA to encourage other strat did practically nothing because it is still the best option for people with no infantry upgrade.

Imp is stil very viable without inf upgrade, I used it over ra as a low rank.

ok duel no upgrades? You go imp and I'll go RA.

I can't stress this enough. RA IS arguably the best strat for low ranks, and is until they get faster and cheaper infantry. I think where strategies are right now is perfect the way it is, while still remaining somewhat "balanced". Where the problem lies is shaking off the mindset of a single strat to use.

Personally, I do not turk, but when I do, it's easy to justify running to imp rather than pd. Hopefully with stable and set strategies, we experiment and break out of what is typically expected in gameplay, 3v3/duels or otherwise.

U all narbs got what u wanted u nerfed Ra, blitz, od.... Ofc gw is op now