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Geplaatst door Professor Adog, 20.07.2014 - 12:10
OK. We'll be patient. We'll wait for the Auto-ban. (No sarcasm). So while we're free, let's plan for a better future. From previous history, it's clear to prevent our precious maps to be trolled and used like pieces of shit we must make bans universal. To teach people not to troll. Speaking to all cartographers, join our new union - Senate of the People's Collective. Current Positions include:

  • Pontifex Maximus - Tik-Tok
  • Consuls - Adog, Tunder & Dr.Glockenspiel
  • Promagistrate - Mr. Rommel
  • Tribune - Marcus Cicero


In order to ban anyone, we require substantial evidence, Screenshots (preferably more than 1), witness statements are also allowed as-long as you also have screenshots, and also if you saw it yourself (please screenshot as proof, so it can be verified).

Current maps enforcing the Senate banlist include

  • Ultimate WWII
  • Ultimate WWI
  • The Dark Ages
  • Ultimate World 1939
  • Ultimate WWII Focus
  • Ultimate Napoleon
  • Fatherland
  • Native America
  • Adog's GGG
  • Adog's Fall of Napoleon
  • Adog's WW1
  • Adog's Scramble for Africa
  • Adog's GGG: Asia
  • Adog's UN
  • Adog's Illuminated RolePlay
  • Adog's European Union
  • Adog's League of Nations
  • Operation Unthinkable
  • Greco-Persian War
  • The enitre Rise of Civilisation Series (by Marcus Cicero)
  • The Greater War v3.3
  • Ultimate Modern World RolePlay Scenario
  • Marcus' WW2 1939 - 1945
  • GGG (Original)
  • Enigma WW2
  • Enigma WW1
  • GGG: Casus Belli
  • United Nations (Original)
  • King of the Hill (Original)


Mod map-makers will probably refuse to join as they are mods, but nevertheless we need YOU

Thanks for your time

Believe in the Power of Monopolisation <3
24.07.2014 - 09:16
Geschreven door Meester, 24.07.2014 at 08:47

This is going to crash and burn. Going rouge is against the rules in UN game, so you'll get banned in all maps under this "senate". Collectivizing ban list is just not going to work, sorry. If you making a collective ban list with people who own/make maps of totally different rules (RP,UN,WW2) thing will not work out.

that is where we define rogue differently, in my RP scenario most people who are rogue "wall fuck or leave" with some people who break the declare 1 turn ahead rule, but its simple to decide not to ban them in our other games. For example, Tunder3 played in the beta for this map and left turn 1 calling everyone jewfaggots, so he is banned from that game lol.
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24.07.2014 - 09:18
Geschreven door Trooper21, 24.07.2014 at 08:57

Geschreven door Professor Adog, 24.07.2014 at 07:58

Weedlife i thought U didn't care for our maps so firstly you can shut up.




we dont feel like lowering ourselves to your pathetic level
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24.07.2014 - 09:20
Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 09:13

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 05:30

Geschreven door Quantum027, 23.07.2014 at 21:35

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 23.07.2014 at 21:26

The Senate is evil and power-hungry!

Do not join!
Do not support!
Do not look!
Do turn the boat while you can!

Their ultimate goal is to topple the modsand control the devs.

It will be like a country run by a company

so negative -support!

lol actually its nothing like that at all, you are just another useless hater who cant accept that trolls and rule breakers are being put in their place. Please give 1 example of where we have shown that we are evil or power hungry. The maps we rule over are our own maps and we arent even trying to enforce them on others so that gets rid of that argument. If you dont have any proof as to how we are power hungry and evil i suggest you cry somewhere else.


You guys want the power to ban people from your maps.
You want the power.
You are hungering for the power.
You are by every definition power-hungry.

I am right.
You are wrong.

You say you don't try to enforce this on Free maps and Free mapmakers, but you are lying.
You guys will ban everyone who plays on non-senate maps, and all the map-makers will have to join you.
Then you will ban anyone who plays with your enemies so they can't play with others and eventually quits.

This can't be allowed.
Luckily for the general public this "Senate of Evil" is still in its infancy, and easy to kill.
I support the ban-list (my suggestion is better though), but this organization just wants to monopolize power.
We have to launch an "anti-$€nate of €v¥|" movement to stop this while we can

and here we see a pathetic child who probably left a ww2 game turn 1 and is now mad at us for him being banned. As i said before you have given no evidence as to how we are evil or power hungry, if you wish to be taken seriously *other than being supported by mindless pot-heads* come to us with some real evidence as to your claims of us trying to impose our universal ban-lists on others. I have asked map-makers to join and some ive tried really hard, but recruiting imposes free-will of the map-maker to chose whether or not to join. And until you can show otherwise, your claims are false and purely meant to get people riled up for no particular reason other than to be an ass about it.

Not ever been banned
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24.07.2014 - 09:24
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:20

Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 09:13

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 05:30

Geschreven door Quantum027, 23.07.2014 at 21:35

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 23.07.2014 at 21:26

The Senate is evil and power-hungry!

Do not join!
Do not support!
Do not look!
Do turn the boat while you can!

Their ultimate goal is to topple the modsand control the devs.

It will be like a country run by a company

so negative -support!

lol actually its nothing like that at all, you are just another useless hater who cant accept that trolls and rule breakers are being put in their place. Please give 1 example of where we have shown that we are evil or power hungry. The maps we rule over are our own maps and we arent even trying to enforce them on others so that gets rid of that argument. If you dont have any proof as to how we are power hungry and evil i suggest you cry somewhere else.


You guys want the power to ban people from your maps.
You want the power.
You are hungering for the power.
You are by every definition power-hungry.

I am right.
You are wrong.

You say you don't try to enforce this on Free maps and Free mapmakers, but you are lying.
You guys will ban everyone who plays on non-senate maps, and all the map-makers will have to join you.
Then you will ban anyone who plays with your enemies so they can't play with others and eventually quits.

This can't be allowed.
Luckily for the general public this "Senate of Evil" is still in its infancy, and easy to kill.
I support the ban-list (my suggestion is better though), but this organization just wants to monopolize power.
We have to launch an "anti-$€nate of €v¥|" movement to stop this while we can

and here we see a pathetic child who probably left a ww2 game turn 1 and is now mad at us for him being banned. As i said before you have given no evidence as to how we are evil or power hungry, if you wish to be taken seriously *other than being supported by mindless pot-heads* come to us with some real evidence as to your claims of us trying to impose our universal ban-lists on others. I have asked map-makers to join and some ive tried really hard, but recruiting imposes free-will of the map-maker to chose whether or not to join. And until you can show otherwise, your claims are false and purely meant to get people riled up for no particular reason other than to be an ass about it.

Not ever been banned

once again ignoring the main portion of my message, you make pathetic claims but have nothing to back it up. If you want to hate just fine, but dont try and make claims about me without being completely prepared, this isnt adog or tik-tok who will just mindlessly argue, you make a claim of us being evil and power-hungry you better damn well have some proof. In this case we all know you dont and your movement wont work as long as you (the presumed leader) has no idea what he is actually against
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24.07.2014 - 09:40
You say I don' have proof?
My point is that you just want power.
The fact that you guys demand the power to ban proves me right.

You on the other hand havn't countered my argument that you just want power.

So obiously you are evil.

You heard adog, he will ban everyone on his enemylist which is probably half of atwar.
Do you want atwar to lose half of its playerbase?
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24.07.2014 - 09:47
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:40

You say I don' have proof?
My point is that you just want power.
The fact that you guys demand the power to ban proves me right.

You on the other hand havn't countered my argument that you just want power.

So obiously you are evil.

You heard adog, he will ban everyone on his enemylist which is probably half of atwar.
Do you want atwar to lose half of its playerbase?


You truly do juxtapose yourself.

> Says my maps are bad

> By me banning people they will leave.

Makes no sense.
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24.07.2014 - 09:52
Did you even read all of my posts¨'

As I wrote in one of my posts when you get control of all the map-makers none on your list will be allowed to play scenarios or custom maps, and then they will get bored of default world maps and quit atWar.
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24.07.2014 - 10:10
In Swash we trust
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24.07.2014 - 10:14
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:40

You say I don' have proof?
My point is that you just want power.
The fact that you guys demand the power to ban proves me right.

You on the other hand havn't countered my argument that you just want power.

So obiously you are evil.

You heard adog, he will ban everyone on his enemylist which is probably half of atwar.
Do you want atwar to lose half of its playerbase?

1st off you cant read. This isnt about adog its you and me, i have said we arent power hungry because we are just trying to do it to make games better. We are NOT just banning people because we feel like it but because they wallfuck or leave turn 1. It is essential that this happens to the game. Have you seen ww2 lately? We had to remake 6 times yesterday because someone leaves or major wfs and ruins the game. I have answered your ridiculous claims and you need actual proof that we are evil. Not just the words of yourself, a butthurt player.
Laden...
Laden...
24.07.2014 - 10:18
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:40

You say I don' have proof?
My point is that you just want power.
The fact that you guys demand the power to ban proves me right.

You on the other hand havn't countered my argument that you just want power.

So obiously you are evil.

You heard adog, he will ban everyone on his enemylist which is probably half of atwar.
Do you want atwar to lose half of its playerbase?

also i didnt answer that last part, as my role as tribune i prevent that. If you listened a bit you would see that i prevent that

sorry adog i told you i would use this. My job is to act impartial and if you know me, you would know that i dont give a fuck who you are, you break the extremely simple rules you get banned, you dont break them no reason to ban.
Laden...
Laden...
24.07.2014 - 10:19
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:52

Did you even read all of my posts¨'

As I wrote in one of my posts when you get control of all the map-makers none on your list will be allowed to play scenarios or custom maps, and then they will get bored of default world maps and quit atWar.

and thats a bad thing? constant turn 1 leavers who cant actually play a game through to the end have no place in scenarios that require every player to be important
Laden...
Laden...
24.07.2014 - 10:42
Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 10:18

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:40

You say I don' have proof?
My point is that you just want power.
The fact that you guys demand the power to ban proves me right.

You on the other hand havn't countered my argument that you just want power.

So obiously you are evil.

You heard adog, he will ban everyone on his enemylist which is probably half of atwar.
Do you want atwar to lose half of its playerbase?

also i didnt answer that last part, as my role as tribune i prevent that. If you listened a bit you would see that i prevent that

sorry adog i told you i would use this. My job is to act impartial and if you know me, you would know that i dont give a fuck who you are, you break the extremely simple rules you get banned, you dont break them no reason to ban.



I bet it was staged.
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24.07.2014 - 10:43
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 10:42

Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 10:18

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:40

You say I don' have proof?
My point is that you just want power.
The fact that you guys demand the power to ban proves me right.

You on the other hand havn't countered my argument that you just want power.

So obiously you are evil.

You heard adog, he will ban everyone on his enemylist which is probably half of atwar.
Do you want atwar to lose half of its playerbase?

also i didnt answer that last part, as my role as tribune i prevent that. If you listened a bit you would see that i prevent that

sorry adog i told you i would use this. My job is to act impartial and if you know me, you would know that i dont give a fuck who you are, you break the extremely simple rules you get banned, you dont break them no reason to ban.



I bet it was staged.

believe what you want lol, and you still ignore my main point but its ok, everyone can see you have made numerous claims without a shred of evidence. We all know you cant form a movement when you make up what you are moving against
Laden...
Laden...
24.07.2014 - 10:47
Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 10:14

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:40

You say I don' have proof?
My point is that you just want power.
The fact that you guys demand the power to ban proves me right.

You on the other hand havn't countered my argument that you just want power.

So obiously you are evil.

You heard adog, he will ban everyone on his enemylist which is probably half of atwar.
Do you want atwar to lose half of its playerbase?

1st off you cant read. This isnt about adog its you and me, i have said we arent power hungry because we are just trying to do it to make games better. We are NOT just banning people because we feel like it but because they wallfuck or leave turn 1. It is essential that this happens to the game. Have you seen ww2 lately? We had to remake 6 times yesterday because someone leaves or major wfs and ruins the game. I have answered your ridiculous claims and you need actual proof that we are evil. Not just the words of yourself, a butthurt player.


I have not said I am against banlisting, I am against collectivising it like the Senate does.
Why? Because there is a corrupt dog as a consul.
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24.07.2014 - 10:48
Black Shark
Account verwijderd
Not sure if Tribune is srs or trolling...

probably srs
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24.07.2014 - 10:49
Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 10:43

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 10:42

Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 10:18

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:40



also i didnt answer that last part, as my role as tribune i prevent that. If you listened a bit you would see that i prevent that

sorry adog i told you i would use this. My job is to act impartial and if you know me, you would know that i dont give a fuck who you are, you break the extremely simple rules you get banned, you dont break them no reason to ban.



I bet it was staged.

believe what you want lol, and you still ignore my main point but its ok, everyone can see you have made numerous claims without a shred of evidence. We all know you cant form a movement when you make up what you are moving against


You say I don' have proof?
My point is that you just want power.
The fact that you guys demand the power to ban proves me right.

You on the other hand havn't countered my argument that you just want power.

So obiously you are evil.

You heard adog, he will ban everyone on his enemylist which is probably half of atwar.
Do you want atwar to lose half of its playerbase?
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Laden...
Laden...
24.07.2014 - 10:53
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 10:47

Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 10:14

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:40

You say I don' have proof?
My point is that you just want power.
The fact that you guys demand the power to ban proves me right.

You on the other hand havn't countered my argument that you just want power.

So obiously you are evil.

You heard adog, he will ban everyone on his enemylist which is probably half of atwar.
Do you want atwar to lose half of its playerbase?

1st off you cant read. This isnt about adog its you and me, i have said we arent power hungry because we are just trying to do it to make games better. We are NOT just banning people because we feel like it but because they wallfuck or leave turn 1. It is essential that this happens to the game. Have you seen ww2 lately? We had to remake 6 times yesterday because someone leaves or major wfs and ruins the game. I have answered your ridiculous claims and you need actual proof that we are evil. Not just the words of yourself, a butthurt player.


I have not said I am against banlisting, I am against collectivising it like the Senate does.
Why? Because there is a corrupt dog as a consul.

there is a group not 1 individual, that is how a senate works, if we were a dictatorship there wouldnt be a Senate or even a group it would be just 1. Learn your styles of governments
Laden...
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24.07.2014 - 10:54
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 10:49

Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 10:43

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 10:42

Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 10:18

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 09:40



also i didnt answer that last part, as my role as tribune i prevent that. If you listened a bit you would see that i prevent that

sorry adog i told you i would use this. My job is to act impartial and if you know me, you would know that i dont give a fuck who you are, you break the extremely simple rules you get banned, you dont break them no reason to ban.



I bet it was staged.

believe what you want lol, and you still ignore my main point but its ok, everyone can see you have made numerous claims without a shred of evidence. We all know you cant form a movement when you make up what you are moving against


You say I don' have proof?
My point is that you just want power.
The fact that you guys demand the power to ban proves me right.

You on the other hand havn't countered my argument that you just want power.

So obiously you are evil.

You heard adog, he will ban everyone on his enemylist which is probably half of atwar.
Do you want atwar to lose half of its playerbase?

did you already say this lol, proof isnt you talking its actual evidence, screenshots, accounts from unbiased players etc. until you provide that i will never take any of your criticism as anything more than just a typical atwar player who wants everything his way or nothing goes.
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24.07.2014 - 10:54
Ok things got a bit messy here.
Lets recap.

I say Senate is Evil and wants Power
You say no
I say yes and presents evidence
You say no again and that I have no evidence
I ask you to prove your point
You present semi-proof and says I still have no evidence
I present it again.
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24.07.2014 - 10:55
Geschreven door Guest, 24.07.2014 at 10:48

Not sure if Tribune is srs or trolling...

probably srs

i am serious lol, that is the problem i like to troll around but then i can be serious and people have a hard time seeing me as that
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Laden...
24.07.2014 - 10:57
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 10:54

Ok things got a bit messy here.
Lets recap.

I say Senate is Evil and wants Power
You say no
I say yes and presents evidence
You say no again and that I have no evidence
I ask you to prove your point
You present semi-proof and says I still have no evidence
I present it again.

where is your evidence, evidence is not just words given by you, that is called heresay, maybe that isnt a thing in Norway, but in America and the rest of the civilized world you cant make a claim (a political one or one concerning laws like in court) without evidence, which is documents, images, or accounts of events. You have only given what you think adog will do once we get the ban-lists and seem to ignore the fact that adog doesnt have all the power. Another thing America has that the Senate has, checks and balances. I know you ignore this but im here to reject bans without screenshots/corroborated evidence. You can be angry and trash us all you want but until you get actual evidence no one will listen to you.
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24.07.2014 - 10:58
Ok let me correct my statement.
There are a few people in the $enate that are corrupt and shouldn't have the power to ban.
They corrupt the whole $enate.

Solution: Kick them out or dissolve $enate.

Evidence to this?
Just look at some of the $enators posts.
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24.07.2014 - 11:01
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 10:58

Ok let me correct my statement.
There are a few people in the $enate that are corrupt and shouldn't have the power to ban.
They corrupt the whole $enate.

Solution: Kick them out or dissolve $enate.

Evidence to this?
Just look at some of the $enators posts.

That isnt evidence, adog and tik tok being racist and bias towards others doesnt mean you can label a movement as evil. While they may have motives that are unethical towards others, they will be kept in check. For the time now this works, if what your saying (somehow) occurs then myself and others will deal with the situation
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24.07.2014 - 11:03
There is no evidence to prove that they are "power hungry"

Their maps are bad and hopefully all of the rank 7+ who get banned from will come play real games that aren't laggy and don't have convoluted bs involved.

Please stop posting here swash you just give their cause more strength and more definition by fighting it.


Go away
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"Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one"
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24.07.2014 - 11:04
Ok can i join you now
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24.07.2014 - 11:12
How do I know you don't lie!?
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24.07.2014 - 11:13
Geschreven door Guest, 24.07.2014 at 10:48

Not sure if Tribune is srs or trolling...

probably srs

lol
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24.07.2014 - 11:19
Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 11:01

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 10:58

Ok let me correct my statement.
There are a few people in the $enate that are corrupt and shouldn't have the power to ban.
They corrupt the whole $enate.

Solution: Kick them out or dissolve $enate.

Evidence to this?
Just look at some of the $enators posts.

That isnt evidence, adog and tik tok being racist and bias towards others doesnt mean you can label a movement as evil. While they may have motives that are unethical towards others, they will be kept in check. For the time now this works, if what your saying (somehow) occurs then myself and others will deal with the situation


You may not feel it now but slowly your subconscious mind makes you turn evil. That always happens with these senates, and what I foretold will come true!

I warned you all!
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24.07.2014 - 11:25
Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 11:19

Geschreven door Quantum027, 24.07.2014 at 11:01

Geschreven door Milton Friedman, 24.07.2014 at 10:58

Ok let me correct my statement.
There are a few people in the $enate that are corrupt and shouldn't have the power to ban.
They corrupt the whole $enate.

Solution: Kick them out or dissolve $enate.

Evidence to this?
Just look at some of the $enators posts.

That isnt evidence, adog and tik tok being racist and bias towards others doesnt mean you can label a movement as evil. While they may have motives that are unethical towards others, they will be kept in check. For the time now this works, if what your saying (somehow) occurs then myself and others will deal with the situation


You may not feel it now but slowly your subconscious mind makes you turn evil. That always happens with these senates, and what I foretold will come true!

I warned you all!

so we are evil? then how will ban-lists work, you just contradicted yourself, you support ban-lists but when people use them, they will become evil. Stick to 1 point dont just jump around it confuses people
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24.07.2014 - 11:30
No u must be alone and freeee not imprison yourself with adog to collectivise bans.

only when mapmkers stand alone and free the evil wont spread :3

just wait and see
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