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Geplaatst door Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

29.09.2016 - 17:36
Well, seeing as my money has not been spent yet, and the Senate has kinda gone amuck. I want my money back from Rome please.

Also can i buy an open bodyguard please.
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29.09.2016 - 17:38
 JF.
All aye go along with the next turn
Laden...
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29.09.2016 - 17:48
What happens if Consulships are empty?
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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29.09.2016 - 17:51
Geschreven door Zenith, 29.09.2016 at 17:36

Well, seeing as my money has not been spent yet, and the Senate has kinda gone amuck. I want my money back from Rome please.

Also can i buy an open bodyguard please.


I will let the consuls reply to this. Its up to them if they want to refund you or not.

Geschreven door Pheonixking929, 29.09.2016 at 17:48

What happens if Consulships are empty?


No government, nothing can be done
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29.09.2016 - 17:55
Refresh my memory, who are the consuls again?
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29.09.2016 - 18:08
Consul Vote (due to low population, the winning consul may pick his co-consul)
1) Publius Numertorius (JF) & ?

Censor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome)

Praetor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome) to govern Asia? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Marcus Antonius (El Tundero) to govern Further Spain? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Sextus Varius (Meester) to govern Africa? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Lars Pedius (Zenith) to govern Narbonese Gaul? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) to govern Cilicia? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Cassius Caelius (Safari) to govern Sicily? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Levying of Forces
3)18 legions

Force Deployments
3)All legions to Greece

Trial of Marcus Antonius

Innocent

Concession to Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)
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29.09.2016 - 18:13
Geschreven door MrArmy987, 29.09.2016 at 16:12




Doesn't matter a blockade will still be effective in accomplishing our goal. I rather they not engage us and spend talent maintaining their fleet, we are far richer and can easily afford ours. Furthermore we will need the fleet against the Pirates next turn.
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29.09.2016 - 18:19
 JF.
Consul Vote
1) Publius Numertorius (JF) & Meester

Censor Vote
1)Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome)

Praetor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

PROPOSALS

All aye.

Levying of Forces
3) Recruitment: 18 legions Deployment: Every single land unit to Greece Proposed via tribune

Trial of Marcus Antonius

1)Innocent

Tax Farmer 4
Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)

meester will be my co
Laden...
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29.09.2016 - 18:49
Fyi a new option has been added by mrarmy tribune at force levying, very late into voting glhf
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29.09.2016 - 18:50
Geschreven door Aetius, 29.09.2016 at 18:49

Fyi a new option has been added by mrarmy tribune at force levying, very late into voting glhf


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29.09.2016 - 18:51
Consul Vote (due to low population, the winning consul may pick his co-consul)
1) Publius Numertorius (JF) & ?

Censor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome)

Praetor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

Due to only one party in rome controlling both consuls, commands need not be elected this phase.

Consul Lucius Caetronianus Isauricus (MrArmy987) will command the Roman Civil War

Publius Numertorius (JF) will command the 2nd Sicilian Slave Revolt


PROPOSALS
"Now, the Senate shall vote on the proposals of the Consuls. Tribunes speak now or forever hold your peace!"

Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome) to govern Asia? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Marcus Antonius (El Tundero) to govern Further Spain? (winner may reject)
1)Aye
2) Nay

Sextus Varius (Meester) to govern Africa? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Lars Pedius (Zenith) to govern Narbonese Gaul? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) to govern Cilicia? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Cassius Caelius (Safari) to govern Sicily? (winner may reject)
1)Aye


Levying of Forces
3) Recruitment: 18 legions Deployment: Every single land unit to Greece Proposed via tribune

Tunder Innocent
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Laden...
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29.09.2016 - 19:58
Change vote

3) Recruitment: 18 legions Deployment: Every single land unit to Greece Proposed via tribune
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29.09.2016 - 22:42
Geschreven door Zenith, 29.09.2016 at 19:58

Change vote

3) Recruitment: 18 legions Deployment: Every single land unit to Greece Proposed via tribune

I change voting too
Laden...
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29.09.2016 - 22:43
Geschreven door Google, 29.09.2016 at 22:42

Geschreven door Zenith, 29.09.2016 at 19:58

Change vote

3) Recruitment: 18 legions Deployment: Every single land unit to Greece Proposed via tribune

I change voting too

I change vote
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Laden...
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29.09.2016 - 22:47
==Turn 21: Phase 3 has begun==
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29.09.2016 - 23:27
 JF.
LET THE BATTLE COMMENCE
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30.09.2016 - 00:43
I can't believe you assholes lost Sicily's developed status
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30.09.2016 - 01:05

Battle of Dyrrhachium
Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus ) (Envelopment)
(3 Evocati + 5 Veterans + 10 Legions +5 provincial legions +6 auxilliares+4 command)=44 strength
Lucius Caetronianus Isauricus (MrArmy987) (Envelopment)
(2 Evocati + 3 Veterans + 22 Legions +5 command ) = 39 strength
Battle Roll: 13 (-5 from lesser strength)=8
Result: Stalemate

Caetronianus approached Marius's position near the city of Dyrrhachium. There, Marius and Sertorius had laid a series of trenches and palisades on a hill. Their position was quite strong however Caetronianus was a more experienced commander after having served the republic all his life in numerous conflicts. The initial battle began with volleys from archers of each side, although populares, having the higher ground and cretan archers caused more casualties. In the center each side was unwilling to attack, instaed both commanders opted for envelopments of the others, which led to hard legion on legion fighting on the flanks. Many brave veteran legions died, even the ancient Legio III Victrix which sacked carthage. In the end, the Senatorial forces were not able to push and they had to retreat back to a defensible position in Illyiricum.


Senate Casualties
3 Legions
Legio XI Caetronianum Pia Fidelis
Legio XVII Baltica


Populare Casualties
2 Legions
1 Provincial Legion
Legio Evocati V Macedonica
Legio III Victrix

Lucius Caetronianus Isauricus has gained a veteran Legion, Legio XX Fulminata
Gaius Marius Maximus has gained a veteran Legion, Legio V Macedonica

Now the Rebels may recruit and attack
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30.09.2016 - 01:15
MrArmy, plz commit suicide and have an honorable death
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30.09.2016 - 01:23
Geschreven door Tundy, 30.09.2016 at 01:15

MrArmy, plz commit suicide and have an honorable death

Agree with Tunder.
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30.09.2016 - 02:52
 JF.
Aetius 19 legions not 18
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30.09.2016 - 03:06
Geschreven door JF., 30.09.2016 at 02:52

Aetius 19 legions not 18

You guys had 189 or something. Not enough for 19 legions. It's why you were raising 18 and not 19 fleets.
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Laden...
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30.09.2016 - 05:36
 JF.
Geschreven door Darth., 30.09.2016 at 03:06

Geschreven door JF., 30.09.2016 at 02:52

Aetius 19 legions not 18

You guys had 189 or something. Not enough for 19 legions. It's why you were raising 18 and not 19 fleets.


I'm talking about legions lost 4+2 is 6 not 5.
Laden...
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30.09.2016 - 10:01
 JF.
So we should have 19 legions left. 3 legion and 2 vets
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30.09.2016 - 10:07
Geschreven door JF., 30.09.2016 at 10:01

So we should have 19 legions left. 3 legion and 2 vets

3 legions were lost, 1 become a veteran
Laden...
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30.09.2016 - 10:21
Ok triumvirate has come to a decision, we will be navally invading Asia with 12 fleets an 1 legion. This will be under the command of Flavius Marcus (Pheonixking929 ). The senate may attempt to intercept this.

In greece we will raise 15 legions.
I (in command now, pyrrhus and I alternate) will be invading illyricium with our entire army.
Laden...
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30.09.2016 - 11:51
I TOLD YOU THAT WE NEEDED TO BLOACKADE ASIA.... REEEEEEE

MrArmy plz fall on your sword.
Laden...
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30.09.2016 - 11:53
Google Chrome, is your duty to take the navy and garrison of ASIA and contest the landing and fight to the death.
Laden...
Laden...
30.09.2016 - 11:58
Geschreven door Tundy, 30.09.2016 at 11:53

Google Chrome, is your duty to take the navy and garrison of ASIA and contest the landing and fight to the death.


Governors don't arrive in the provinces before the next turn, that's when their term starts
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
Laden...
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30.09.2016 - 12:09
Geschreven door Pyrrhus, 30.09.2016 at 11:58

Geschreven door Tundy, 30.09.2016 at 11:53

Google Chrome, is your duty to take the navy and garrison of ASIA and contest the landing and fight to the death.


Governors don't arrive in the provinces before the next turn, that's when their term starts


Is Automatic Appointment, maybe they can't collect taxes but the governor is already there.
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