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24.01.2016 - 11:49
How about in the startup lobby there is an option that allows players to only attack on turn 2, 3, or 4. This will stop Role playing games being all about "HOLY SHIT FRANCE IS FROUGE" "UK IS ROUGE" & all of that stuff.

RP wont be so much of a cancer to the community anymore. (Maybe)

Also being able to trade (Of some sorts) with allies would also be a good thing for Role players. But that will come down to the map creator if he/she wants certain countries to have less of, more of or even in need of certain materials/resources & something along those lines.....This will also stop the betraying that happens in most games unless this certain empire is rich in all of these certain materials.
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24.01.2016 - 13:14
Em... I don't mean to be rude, but to me RP is simply secundary. I wouldn't change anything in this game in order to favour RP.

RP rules are only te be applied there. If a guy goes rogue, then it's their bussines. Let them deal with it the way they want to. To me, it is absolutely reasonable to be able to attack other players before turn 5 and all that non sense. And trades are already possible... simply send money. Forget about resources, that's a completely different game you're talking about.
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24.01.2016 - 13:34
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 13:14

Em... I don't mean to be rude, but to me RP is simply secundary. I wouldn't change anything in this game in order to favour RP.

RP rules are only te be applied there. If a guy goes rogue, then it's their bussines. Let them deal with it the way they want to. To me, it is absolutely reasonable to be able to attack other players before turn 5 and all that non sense. And trades are already possible... simply send money. Forget about resources, that's a completely different game you're talking about.


Why do you think AtWar can't have varieties?
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24.01.2016 - 13:59
Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 13:34

Why do you think AtWar can't have varieties?

I never said such thing. Read again pls.

What you're talking about isn't varieties. It's a very specific map. If RP gets such favourable rules for them, what would stop all other scenarios to obtain their own rules? Can you imagine the flame war people can start here??

The game revolves around the default world map. Making people have to follow mandatorily RP rules is not a must, is something people get to choose. I'm not against having RP, but rogues are part of their games once you make up those rules. Or are you against the variety of having rogues? XD
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24.01.2016 - 14:09
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 13:59

Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 13:34

Why do you think AtWar can't have varieties?

I never said such thing. Read again pls.

What you're talking about isn't varieties. It's a very specific map. If RP gets such favourable rules for them, what would stop all other scenarios to obtain their own rules? Can you imagine the flame war people can start here??

The game revolves around the default world map. Making people have to follow mandatorily RP rules is not a must, is something people get to choose. I'm not against having RP, but rogues are part of their games once you make up those rules. Or are you against the variety of having rogues? XD


Rogues in rp don't talk they just try to ruin the game, Again this is up to the map maker if he/she wants to make a "RP Map". Giving so much more customization to map creators would be amazing in AtWar. They could not only make lots of different type of plays in rp games they would be able to do it for GGG'S & FFA's & even possibly make a new type of genre in AtWar.
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24.01.2016 - 14:23
Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 14:09

Rogues in rp don't talk they just try to ruin the game, Again this is up to the map maker if he/she wants to make a "RP Map". Giving so much more customization to map creators would be amazing in AtWar. They could not only make lots of different type of plays in rp games they would be able to do it for GGG'S & FFA's & even possibly make a new type of genre in AtWar.

Okey... what you were asking is for a prolongation of the time without being able to attack? Only RP would use it, therefor it would be a very bias and potentially useless change, specially considering that this is a militaristic game in essence. So no.

You also asked for resources. That would mean changing the game in very deep details. That would mean nearly changing the game itself. For such big changes I recomend looking for a different game since if admins made the game like this, don't expect any change in the game basis in such deep levels.

As for rogues ruining the game... isn't that what all rogues are supposed to do according to you, whether they talk or not? I've met many jerks in RP that talk a lot but do what they feel like doing. For you is ruininig a game, for me it means variety in a boring game without any logical warfare. If you wanna think of it realistically, rogues exist everywhere, so get used to them.
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24.01.2016 - 14:36
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 14:23

Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 14:09

Rogues in rp don't talk they just try to ruin the game, Again this is up to the map maker if he/she wants to make a "RP Map". Giving so much more customization to map creators would be amazing in AtWar. They could not only make lots of different type of plays in rp games they would be able to do it for GGG'S & FFA's & even possibly make a new type of genre in AtWar.

Okey... what you were asking is for a prolongation of the time without being able to attack? Only RP would use it, therefor it would be a very bias and potentially useless change, specially considering that this is a militaristic game in essence. So no.

You also asked for resources. That would mean changing the game in very deep details. That would mean nearly changing the game itself. For such big changes I recomend looking for a different game since if admins made the game like this, don't expect any change in the game basis in such deep levels.

As for rogues ruining the game... isn't that what all rogues are supposed to do according to you, whether they talk or not? I've met many jerks in RP that talk a lot but do what they feel like doing. For you is ruininig a game, for me it means variety in a boring game without any logical warfare. If you wanna think of it realistically, rogues exist everywhere, so get used to them.


Again................It depends on the map creator IF.............IF..He/she wants to do this in this certain map.
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24.01.2016 - 15:02
Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 14:36

Again................It depends on the map creator IF.............IF..He/she wants to do this in this certain map.

Even if a map maker wanted to implement these changes, they go quite against the flow of this game and its basis, so they're bad options to have.
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24.01.2016 - 15:07
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 15:02

Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 14:36

Again................It depends on the map creator IF.............IF..He/she wants to do this in this certain map.

Even if a map maker wanted to implement these changes, they go quite against the flow of this game and its basis, so they're bad options to have.


True a bit, i think it would be good if there was more customization for the map makers.
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24.01.2016 - 15:10
Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 15:07

True a bit, i think it would be good if there was more customization for the map makers.

Sure thing! Simply not the options you presented here, which obviously were conceived in favour of RP only or in favour of such a new and different game basis.
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24.01.2016 - 15:20
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 15:10

Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 15:07

True a bit, i think it would be good if there was more customization for the map makers.

Sure thing! Simply not the options you presented here, which obviously were conceived in favour of RP only or in favour of such a new and different game basis.


"different game basis."

*different gameplay style.
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24.01.2016 - 15:25
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 14:23

Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 14:09


Okey... what you were asking is for a prolongation of the time without being able to attack? Only RP would use it




On topic: Support, great idea I can see it's applications outside of RP as well.
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24.01.2016 - 15:39
Geschreven door clovis1122, 24.01.2016 at 15:25

Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 14:23

Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 14:09


Okey... what you were asking is for a prolongation of the time without being able to attack? Only RP would use it




On topic: Support, great idea I can see it's applications outside of RP as well.


Thank you.
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24.01.2016 - 16:30
Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 15:20

"different game basis."

*different gameplay style.

That means a different game as well. And I don't want it to become some sort of alliance party and scaredy cats. In war there's no such thing as "let me grow and then we'll fight". If you don't like the game basis, then you don't like the game.

As different gameplay, you mean less fighting...? No support.
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24.01.2016 - 16:31
Geschreven door clovis1122, 24.01.2016 at 15:25

On topic: Support, great idea I can see it's applications outside of RP as well.

Ok, I'm waiting... give me options pls cause I can't see it.
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24.01.2016 - 16:37
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 16:30

Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 15:20

"different game basis."

*different gameplay style.

That means a different game as well. And I don't want it to become some sort of alliance party and scaredy cats. In war there's no such thing as "let me grow and then we'll fight". If you don't like the game basis, then you don't like the game.

As different gameplay, you mean less fighting...? No support.


1) Take a chill pill.

2) Again.....It depends on the map maker if he/she wants to make something.........."Power to the player" bro.
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24.01.2016 - 16:39
Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 16:37

2) Again.....It depends on the map maker if he/she wants to make something.........."Power to the player" bro.

Again, you only mentioned RP. Mention me another possibility to use that.
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24.01.2016 - 17:13
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 16:39

Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 16:37

2) Again.....It depends on the map maker if he/she wants to make something.........."Power to the player" bro.

Again, you only mentioned RP. Mention me another possibility to use that.


"They could not only make lots of different type of plays in rp games they would be able to do it for GGG'S & FFA's & even possibly make a new type of genre in AtWar."
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24.01.2016 - 17:14
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 16:39

Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 16:37

2) Again.....It depends on the map maker if he/she wants to make something.........."Power to the player" bro.

Again, you only mentioned RP. Mention me another possibility to use that.


Says, there is a player that enters to the war at some point (turn 4-5). Being more specific:

A) Barbarians can't attack Romans until turn 5
B) France and Uk can't attack germany until turn 6
C) The Horde can't attack persia until Turn 4
D) Russia can't attack Germany after turn 21 (Why it can't work at the inverse? support!)
E) need more?
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24.01.2016 - 17:53
Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 17:13

"They could not only make lots of different type of plays in rp games they would be able to do it for GGG'S & FFA's & even possibly make a new type of genre in AtWar."

GGG doesn't need it. FFA's are meant to not have any peace at all. New type? Invent it pls
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24.01.2016 - 17:57
Geschreven door clovis1122, 24.01.2016 at 17:14

Says, there is a player that enters to the war at some point (turn 4-5). Being more specific:

A) Barbarians can't attack Romans until turn 5
B) France and Uk can't attack germany until turn 6
C) The Horde can't attack persia until Turn 4
D) Russia can't attack Germany after turn 21 (Why it can't work at the inverse? support!)
E) need more?

You only mention specific players. He mentioned a global peace for 5 turns. The only map retarded enough to keep 5 turns with global peace is RP. A normal map would start with premade countries so that you can fight just after the start of a game.
A, B and C are mainly the same but I'm not sure why would that have to be that way or in what circumstances.
D is actually quite interesting but it would work as a team switch in scenarios. Completely different idea from what mentioned to this point.
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24.01.2016 - 18:01
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 17:53

Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 17:13

"They could not only make lots of different type of plays in rp games they would be able to do it for GGG'S & FFA's & even possibly make a new type of genre in AtWar."

GGG doesn't need it. FFA's are meant to not have any peace at all. New type? Invent it pls


"Invent it pls" That one is up to the map makers.
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24.01.2016 - 18:09
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 17:57

You only mention specific players. He mentioned a global peace for 5 turns. The only map retarded enough to keep 5 turns with global peace is RP.


You could also start a colonial game in which each of the colonial powers start with a little colony, and make attacks available in turn 5. Would'be a lot more interesting and realist than starting with preset colonies.

you gotta work in that imagination tho :I
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24.01.2016 - 18:11
Geschreven door DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.01.2016 at 18:01

"Invent it pls" That one is up to the map makers.

Okey, then ask a map maker if he would be able/keen on using such options. Only RP map makers would agree to use such option of peace making. Not so sure about the resources though it's practically impossible to imagine it implemented in this game.
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24.01.2016 - 18:12
Geschreven door clovis1122, 24.01.2016 at 18:09

You could also start a colonial game in which each of the colonial powers start with a little colony, and make attacks available in turn 5. Would'be a lot more interesting and realist than starting with preset colonies.

you gotta work in that imagination tho :I

Realistic colonies would fight each other since the very first turn.
Easy to say, hard to do haha Until this point I find no real circusmtance in any map in which no one would fight up untill turn 5.
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24.01.2016 - 18:27
Geschreven door RaulPB, 24.01.2016 at 18:12

Geschreven door clovis1122, 24.01.2016 at 18:09

You could also start a colonial game in which each of the colonial powers start with a little colony, and make attacks available in turn 5. Would'be a lot more interesting and realist than starting with preset colonies.

you gotta work in that imagination tho :I

Realistic colonies would fight each other since the very first turn.


Nope, they would avoid fighting for avoid a conflict with the other power, specially if the other power is stronger than them.

Haiti and dominicain republic are a very good example. So are those bunch of Caribbean islands. You never saw Spain attacking them.

Colony war only comes when you're directly in the other's way or you've got a colony with substantial amount of goods.
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24.01.2016 - 18:39
Geschreven door clovis1122, 24.01.2016 at 18:27

Nope, they would avoid fighting for avoid a conflict with the other power, specially if the other power is stronger than them.

In that case they would personally ask for a peace if they were so interested in not fighting. It's up to both of them to decide whether they want to fight or not.
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